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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264522
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Well unless your willing to change pistons, and since you just want a tenth more I would just send your current 440-1 offs the get ported and fresh valve job.

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1264523
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Well to answer the original question 440-1 great head but of course the 13's make more power.Who has the best price on the 440-1's I dont know but look at who is an Indy dealer on here, try Performance Only,Competionwedge or Bob George.

Congrats Billy on getting your dragster to 1450 as I just bought an altered that weighs 200 lbs more than you with a small block Guess Iam an idiot

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264524
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My 572 low deck made over a 1,000 hp with a set of 572-13 heads.

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1264525
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Just a few short years ago, we as Mopar enthusiasts, racers and builders couldnt even debate a topic like this! Now look at it, we have so many choices, we cant decide... ...carry on...carry on...


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1264526
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Just a few short years ago, we as Mopar enthusiasts, racers and builders couldnt even debate a topic like this! Now look at it, we have so many choices, we cant decide... ...carry on...carry on...


You are so right . And look how we can fix old mopars up all kinds of new parts times have change but it`s about time MOPAR OR NO CAR

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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264527
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I got my INDY 440-1 heads from Mancini Racing they are real helpful and they know MOPARS. I guess i see about getting my heads ported .

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1264528
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steeldust whats your car weigh?


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: moparniac] #1264529
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steeldust whats your car weigh?


3,100 with me in it.

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264530
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3,100 with me in it.




nice set of 345s will get ya there


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: moparniac] #1264531
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steeldust whats your car weigh?


3,100 with me in it.




nice set of 345s will get ya there


I think my heads if i get them ported will work or i hope? Just got to find some one i can trust to port them .

Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1264532
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I am looking for a tenth or a little more the car will run 5.90s in good cool air but i need 6.00 to 6.02 in real bad hot air and a slick track it run 6.05 & 6.04 & 6.04 & 6.06 & 6.04 and i lost with a 6.04 and the air was hot and bad that`s why i was asking about the 572-13s .


YOU ARE SO RIGHT



It's your money..

So for about $1500 or so you can port the 440-1's and get what you need or spend $4000-5000 and get more than you need..


Chris..



Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264533
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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: MRMOPAR622]
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Well to answer the original question 440-1 great head but of course the 13's make more power.Who has the best price on the 440-1's I dont know but look at who is an Indy dealer on here, try Performance Only,Competionwedge or Bob George.

Congrats Billy on getting your dragster to 1450 as I just bought an altered that weighs 200 lbs more than you with a small block Guess Iam an idiot

If you noticed I am not the one that said it weights 1450 lbs That was AL But it is a light car and if you have a steel block SB,my all aluminum Indy engine will be just as light as yours Indy says they weigh 475 lbs complete with tunnel ram and 2 1150 Holley's mime has 2 1475 Terminators. I would guess with me in it 1700-1750 lbs,I would be very surprised if it is 1800 lbs.I spent a lot of $$$ trying to keep mine light. I may be wrong but I think you will find that most altered's are as heavy if not heavier than a dragster.

steeldust,another thing to consider is with the heat we are having it may be better to have a little more power than needed.If things keep going(weather wise)at the rate they are going now toward the end of this month and the next couple of months you may need to be holding back a full tenth.


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1264534
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Dwayne posted some Indy flow numbers with various levels of machining. Nice improvement in the -1's with minimal work


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post7043642


Dwayne prepped the ICH 295 EZ's on my pump gas 572 (that he built) and it made 720hp/725tq. I'm sure he could do just as good or better with a set of -1's


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1264535
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Yeah what he said!!!!
There are several -13 heads making at or near a grand. We have been involved with several in everything from pulling trucks to mud racers. I am just saying to the original poster. If that is all you need or want there are easier and less expensive ways to do it.
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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: sasquatch] #1264536
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Is all this talk just with running a single 4 bbl. carb.? What about tunnel rams an a pair of Dominators, or fuel injection? Bet the answer on heads changes a little then.


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: Slingshot383] #1264537
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Well my junk is single 4, cast intake that is unported.

I am sure the experts will tell you that my on track numbers dont bear out the dyno numbers. 2875lbs 8.0's at 169 and change from 525" of B1. With the stop on it set up for S/ST, with that convertor we have been 8.teens at 165. Would love to hear what the experts think it should run with a dynoed 1050hp.

FWIW 1000hp in a 1750lb dragster should be able to go 7.0's at close to 190


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1264538
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Mine will do that Al,and more in T/D trim. But don't think I just stuck the big engine in it and it started running those numbers.

I have the tunnel-ram and 2 1475 Terminators on mine. I think the Terminators and alcohol play a big part in my cars performance along with the torque converter.

PS I don't see the Big engines getting enough fuel with 1 carb.

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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: steeldust] #1264539
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I got my INDY 440-1 heads from Mancini Racing they are real helpful and they know MOPARS. I guess i see about getting my heads ported .




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Well my junk is single 4, cast intake that is unported.

I am sure the experts will tell you that my on track numbers dont bear out the dyno numbers. 2875lbs 8.0's at 169 and change from 525" of B1. With the stop on it set up for S/ST, with that convertor we have been 8.teens at 165. Would love to hear what the experts think it should run with a dynoed 1050hp.


FWIW 1000hp in a 1750lb dragster should be able to go 7.0's at close to 190



Just to help out the experts a buddy of mine running 1025 hp went 8.00s at 2550 lbs, so looken pretty good there Al


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Re: INDY 572-13 HEADS ? [Re: MRMOPAR622]
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Well to answer the original question 440-1 great head but of course the 13's make more power.Who has the best price on the 440-1's I dont know but look at who is an Indy dealer on here, try Performance Only,Competionwedge or Bob George.

Congrats Billy on getting your dragster to 1450 as I just bought an altered that weighs 200 lbs more than you with a small block Guess Iam an idiot

If you noticed I am not the one that said it weights 1450 lbs That was AL But it is a light car and if you have a steel block SB,my all aluminum Indy engine will be just as light as yours Indy says they weigh 475 lbs complete with tunnel ram and 2 1150 Holley's mime has 2 1475 Terminators. I would guess with me in it 1700-1750 lbs,I would be very surprised if it is 1800 lbs.I spent a lot of $$$ trying to keep mine light. I may be wrong but I think you will find that most altered's are as heavy if not heavier than a dragster.

steeldust,another thing to consider is with the heat we are having it may be better to have a little more power than needed.If things keep going(weather wise)at the rate they are going now toward the end of this month and the next couple of months you may need to be holding back a full tenth.


I guess you know a thing or two about 572-13 heads you run them do you think by putting 572s on will they make that big of a difference over my 440-1s or if i get my heads ported would the 572s still make a difference when i do this i won`t to do it right or i hope are the 572s that good of a head thanks

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