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NOT HAPPY
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07/08/12 12:14 PM
07/08/12 12:14 PM
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I'm not happy with the engine in the Rampage... I pulled the plugs today and see some oil on a few but its also dog fat.. I cant find my compression gauge (I think I loaned it out but cant remember) but I will do a leak down today... it has a couple of oil leaks that I need to address... one of them is the timing cover at the pan/block.. plus I need to pull the oil pan to fix a tiny crack at the corner where I screwed up and lifted the back with the floor jack(stupid me)... but if I dont like what I see on a few test I'll pull the engine/trans today..... I just need to figure out where the oil in the cyls is coming from.... BUMMER........ ok... rant off 
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1264001
07/08/12 01:42 PM
07/08/12 01:42 PM
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Step at a time and don't go to the worst case scenerio right away. Test as much as you can first to narrow done the posibilities.
Fastest 300
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: dartman366]
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07/08/12 01:54 PM
07/08/12 01:54 PM
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If I remember correct Mike the most of the smoke was coming from the right bank when you reved it a little in front of the garage door but both were hazing some blue. 
Most of that smoke in front of the shop was from
a oil leak getting sucked in at the ball socket on
the exhaust joint... I fixed that and 90% of the smoke
is gone but the plugs show a bit of oil and soot
from fuel and oil.... I'm starting with a leak down
then I'll pull the intake... if its farther in than
that I'll pull the engine
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: dartman366]
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07/08/12 02:39 PM
07/08/12 02:39 PM
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Not good... looks like the rings are junk.... I did leak down on 2 cyls.... one was 40% leak the other was 60%..... engines gotta come out... I can only think that they got fuel soaked... but it fired up instantly... I can hear the air dumping into the crank case  Oh well.... do-do happens... this is my FIRST engine that I ever had to tear back down... I'm pissed at myself
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1264005
07/08/12 02:52 PM
07/08/12 02:52 PM
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Without re-reading your thread,,,was this a recent build or one that has been setting for awhile?
If you like drag racing, support your local track.
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Re: NOT HAPPY
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07/08/12 03:03 PM
07/08/12 03:03 PM
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Without re-reading your thread,,,was this a recent build or one that has been setting for awhile?
Its was fresh.... but sat a couple of months but I
primed it a few times while turning it over... I
think this time its going on the dyno
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1264008
07/08/12 03:11 PM
07/08/12 03:11 PM
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New pistons or used?? What I am getting at, is, are the ring lands/grooves posibly too wide from past use?
If you like drag racing, support your local track.
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Re: NOT HAPPY
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07/08/12 03:27 PM
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New pistons or used?? What I am getting at, is, are the ring lands/grooves posibly too wide from past use?
New pistons, rings, bearings, rods, crank all that
stuff was new
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: Thumperdart]
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07/08/12 03:38 PM
07/08/12 03:38 PM
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New pistons or used?? What I am getting at, is, are the ring lands/grooves posibly too wide from past use?
New pistons, rings, bearings, rods, crank all that
stuff was new
I`d lean it out and go beat on it for a few and see if the sealing improves............done it before w/non detergent oil and it worked but maybe yours has different issues......... 
I'm gonna put the rockers back on and lean it out
and try... sure cant hurt anything now
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Re: NOT HAPPY
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07/08/12 03:48 PM
07/08/12 03:48 PM
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New pistons or used?? What I am getting at, is, are the ring lands/grooves posibly too wide from past use?
New pistons, rings, bearings, rods, crank all that
stuff was new
I`d lean it out and go beat on it for a few and see if the sealing improves............done it before w/non detergent oil and it worked but maybe yours has different issues.........
I'm gonna put the rockers back on and lean it out
and try... sure cant hurt anything now
The W5 434 we just put together was using oil a bit. We did a couple WOT pulls on the engine dyno, and it sealed up. Like you say, it's worth a try! 
-Kenny
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Re: NOT HAPPY
[Re: StrokerAspen]
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07/08/12 03:58 PM
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New pistons or used?? What I am getting at, is, are the ring lands/grooves posibly too wide from past use?
New pistons, rings, bearings, rods, crank all that
stuff was new
I`d lean it out and go beat on it for a few and see if the sealing improves............done it before w/non detergent oil and it worked but maybe yours has different issues.........
I'm gonna put the rockers back on and lean it out
and try... sure cant hurt anything now
The W5 434 we just put together was using oil a bit. We did a couple WOT pulls on the engine dyno, and it sealed up. Like you say, it's worth a try!
-Kenny
I;ll lean it out and try loading it on the brakes...
if it works... great, if not.... it comes out
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sorry for ya buddy, hope it goes smooth the rest of the way, that is one sweet ride 
