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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: VoodooCLD] #1263911
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There are alot of sleeper cars around. Here is a friend of mine in his street driven mustang. This is a test run he made at the track.
He runs a smallblock ford and a procharger.He did not put the pedal to the floor till about 200 feet out. He ran over 175 mph in the qtr mile on this pass and that is a 3000# car.
http://youtu.be/87IBgWOrRBM

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: WheelsUp73] #1263912
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Fast, but I think the huge cowl hood, parachute, wing and mag wheels eliminate it from 'sleeper' catagory...


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: WheelsUp73] #1263913
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: 65signet] #1263914
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO


THANK YOU............I agree for the most part and fast n/a has WAY more merit then the power adders.


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Thumperdart] #1263915
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Say what you want but turbos and prochargers are here to stay.He does not cruise the streets with a parachute.It is a track rule if you go over 150 you need to have a chute on the car. My point is there alot of fast cars out there. I see 2 power adders on that nova. Don't be a hater because your crap is slow.

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: 65signet] #1263916
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




then its not a sleeper its just slow


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: bigtimeauto] #1263917
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




then its not a sleeper its just slow


Don`t get me wrong here, I`m blown away by turbos and the power they can produce but if you think about it, they SHOULD haul ass cos they`re expected to. N/a cars can only be so fast w/out high end money and parts which I`m short on these days so, slow n/a for me for now.


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: 65signet] #1263918
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Sleeper's should not have power adders




Not sure that having a power adder makes the car look faster...what is under a closed hood, is under a closed hood


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: WheelsUp73] #1263919
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Say what you want but turbos and prochargers are here to stay.He does not cruise the streets with a parachute.It is a track rule if you go over 150 you need to have a chute on the car. My point is there alot of fast cars out there. I see 2 power adders on that nova. Don't be a hater because your crap is slow.





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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Thumperdart] #1263920
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




then its not a sleeper its just slow


Don`t get me wrong here, I`m blown away by turbos and the power they can produce but if you think about it, they SHOULD haul ass cos they`re expected to. N/a cars can only be so fast w/out high end money and parts which I`m short on these days so, slow n/a for me for now.




I'm glad i don't have a turbo so i didn't get grouped into that statement.


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Thumperdart] #1263921
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




then its not a sleeper its just slow


Don`t get me wrong here, I`m blown away by turbos and the power they can produce but if you think about it, they SHOULD haul ass cos they`re expected to. N/a cars can only be so fast w/out high end money and parts which I`m short on these days so, slow n/a for me for now.




All these arbitrary rules as to what constitutes a sleeper....sheesh!

So, if the turbo car is built with a junkyard engine, no high end parts, doesn't look fast, is super quiet, doesn't cost a lot to replicate, and yet it still runs solid mid 9's at 144mph... can it still be a real sleeper?

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: topbrent] #1263922
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A bunch of haters in this thread...

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: 65signet] #1263923
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




w/o boost it's almost impossible to have a "sleeper"/driver. To do it N/A you'll need tons of cubic inches, very very expensive heads, a big bumpity bumb cam, big stall and tall gear. Boost eliminates the need for all of that.

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1263924
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Agreed that the turbo and super chargers will make a really powerful unsuspecting car. Only problem is, i can hear a charger from a mile away. The beans are spoiled as soon as you hit the gas.

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Charger453] #1263925
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A bunch of haters in this thread...




word... I was under the impression was a sleeper was simply a car that is wayyy faster then it appears. I didn't realize it had a million other constraints....

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: VoodooCLD] #1263926
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Agreed that the turbo and super chargers will make a really powerful unsuspecting car. Only problem is, i can hear a charger from a mile away. The beans are spoiled as soon as you hit the gas.




some do some don't. I had a paxton that was quiet. Only thing you heard was the pssssssst when the BOV opened after you got out of it. Plenty of new Mustangs running boost that you can't hear. Does the Nova look like it could run 8's? Not until you open the hood, but then again I'd never be dumb enough to race somebody for money w/o knowing exactly what they had. Apples to apples not apples to doughnuts.

Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: HemiDart68] #1263927
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I was under the impression was a sleeper was simply a car that is wayyy faster then it appears. I didn't realize it had a million other constraints....





That would be my definition too!



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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: bigtimeauto] #1263928
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




then its not a sleeper its just slow


Don`t get me wrong here, I`m blown away by turbos and the power they can produce but if you think about it, they SHOULD haul ass cos they`re expected to. N/a cars can only be so fast w/out high end money and parts which I`m short on these days so, slow n/a for me for now.




I'm glad i don't have a turbo so i didn't get grouped into that statement.


Sorry you feel picked on as I was about my "slow ass car" whatever............your car is bad ass no denying that. I`ve been watching several P.S.C.A. guys for years set the racing world on fire and watched Jason Pettis build these monsters first hand when I worked there so this isn`t my first rodeo and if I had the cash I too could have an 8-second streeter but, n/a works for me..............and of course my "slo ass car"............so who`s the REAL hater here.........sure ain`t me.


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1263929
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Sleeper's should not have power adders, i think it is more impressive without some big turbo or procharger hanging off the motor. JMO




w/o boost it's almost impossible to have a "sleeper"/driver. To do it N/A you'll need tons of cubic inches, very very expensive heads, a big bumpity bumb cam, big stall and tall gear. Boost eliminates the need for all of that.





I have seen plenty of small cubic inch N/A motors, going really quick in super stock and comp elim, i saw a barracuda with a N/A 383 go 9.70 dragging the bumper with a AVS for a carb.


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Re: So you think you have a sleeper [Re: VoodooCLD] #1263930
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Agreed that the turbo and super chargers will make a really powerful unsuspecting car. Only problem is, i can hear a charger from a mile away. The beans are spoiled as soon as you hit the gas.




for the 10 second crowd....not until after I hammered it...of course mine wasn't built to look like a sleep either although I had many a "kid" try and sucker me into a race until they asked to see whats under the hood...

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