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440 in a 68-72 GM A body. #1254457 06/20/12 06:33 PM 06/20/12 06:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	See attached pic I found a while back and let me know if you recognize whose headers were used. TTI? I race two brands and I've about had it trying to keep main bearings in brand B's engine but I got the car all dialed in for mid tens and street legal so I'm considering going Mopar powered in it. I have a BBM to TH400 adapter bellhousing and elephants ears, rear sump pan are easy. The headers are the pain. And no it's not a Chevelle. Thanks 7258300-440-a.jpg (485 downloads) Last edited by d7cook; 06/20/12 06:35 PM. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254458 06/20/12 06:48 PM 06/20/12 06:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,260 Las Vegas NV moparmanjames pro stock
moparmanjames pro stock Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,260 Las Vegas NV

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: moparmanjames] #1254459 06/20/12 06:53 PM 06/20/12 06:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Brand B, huh? Talk to T/A Performance in Phoenix, AZ? The later Brand B blocks had bigger oil passages that helped some. Back in the day, a local Highway Patrolman had a Centurion and toasted the engine on a high speed chase. He loved that car but after a few miles he had to pull over and watch the bad guy (friend of mine) disappear into the distance. The friend was so scared of showing the car in town that he garaged it for six months! I believe the HP switched brands after that incident. R.

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254460 06/20/12 09:12 PM 06/20/12 09:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I don't even know what a GM A-body is but they look a little like headmans. why not just sell the body and get a mopar, then you won't have a fit issue [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1254461 06/20/12 11:06 PM 06/20/12 11:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY challengermike super stock
challengermike super stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,062 Amherst,NY	The buicks are known for oiling problems, but there are a few places out there that will mod the front cover and give you some tips on how to improve the whole system. As for the headers they may be a custom built set.

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254462 06/21/12 12:44 AM 06/21/12 12:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	I've thrown all the tricks at the oiling system. I'm using a setup similar to a Milodon external pick up, halo girdled, 3-point main oiling, etc, etc. It has big mains at 3.25 which are hard to oil and the block is so thin that even filled with concrete I think it flex's too much. It's a shame cause the cores are cheap and you can run mid 11's pretty cheap and easy. Any faster and the oiling problems rear their ugly head. I really want to keep the car because I've been racing it for 15 years. I'm comfortable in it and I've got the chassis sorted out. If it wasn't for the main bearing oiling it'd be great, runs mid 10's, street legal and idles at 800 rpm. Scott Brown did the heads and the cam. If do the conversion I hope to find a set of headers where I may just have to modify a tube or two on each side and not have to build a set from scratch. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254463 06/21/12 02:38 AM 06/21/12 02:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV dodgeboy11 super stock
dodgeboy11 super stock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV	Aftermarket block? I have a buddy that picked up an aluminum buick block and was going to twin turbo it for land speed racing. Block didn't look bad, but it was a first casting and some oil pan bolts were in the wrong places. If I remember correctly it cost enough you could probably build a complete "something else" and still have some left over. It did have priority main oiling and I think it also ran a smaller main journal.

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: dodgeboy11] #1254464 06/21/12 07:14 AM 06/21/12 07:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL	I've got a couple buddies with Buford's running mid 9's. Both of them have 540 Reher-Morrison motors for the exact reasons you've stated. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254465 06/21/12 08:18 AM 06/21/12 08:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: I've thrown all the tricks at the oiling system. I'm using a setup similar to a Milodon external pick up, halo girdled, 3-point main oiling, etc, etc. It has big mains at 3.25 which are hard to oil and the block is so thin that even filled with concrete I think it flex's too much. It's a shame cause the cores are cheap and you can run mid 11's pretty cheap and easy. Any faster and the oiling problems rear their ugly head. I really want to keep the car because I've been racing it for 15 years. I'm comfortable in it and I've got the chassis sorted out. If it wasn't for the main bearing oiling it'd be great, runs mid 10's, street legal and idles at 800 rpm. Scott Brown did the heads and the cam. If do the conversion I hope to find a set of headers where I may just have to modify a tube or two on each side and not have to build a set from scratch. could you try a set of A-body fenderwells? Those GM's have a ton of inner-fender you can trim out. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1254466 06/21/12 08:58 AM 06/21/12 08:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 699 Manassas, VA USA Scamp451 mopar
Scamp451 mopar Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 699 Manassas, VA USA	B/RB's Mopar engines are common in 67-71 Nova's and Firechickens around these parts (stock frame railed cars). B-Body Hooker Supercomps were close, but a tube or two had to be modified. Otherwise you have to build headers to fit. Heck, there was even a 440 in a Maverick around here 15-20 years ago.

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: Scamp451] #1254467 06/21/12 10:41 AM 06/21/12 10:41 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: B/RB's Mopar engines are common in 67-71 Nova's and Firechickens around these parts (stock frame railed cars). B-Body Hooker Supercomps were close, but a tube or two had to be modified. Thank you. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: dodgeboy11] #1254468 06/21/12 10:45 AM 06/21/12 10:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Aftermarket block? I have a buddy that picked up an aluminum buick block and was going to twin turbo it for land speed racing. Block didn't look bad, but it was a first casting and some oil pan bolts were in the wrong places. If I remember correctly it cost enough you could probably build a complete "something else" and still have some left over. It did have priority main oiling and I think it also ran a smaller main journal. I think I know who you're talking about. It was going in a Riv wasn't it. The aluminum blocks I've seen are nice. They come in stock and race versions. The stock version doesn't really fix the oiling issue, the race block is 50% more than a KB and add in the custom crank, cam, etc and it's stupid expensive. Besides that I have some issues with the guy who makes them. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254469 06/21/12 07:16 PM 06/21/12 07:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL	Who finally made the blocks? T/A talked about it for years. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: slantzilla] #1254470 06/22/12 11:16 AM 06/22/12 11:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Who finally made the blocks? T/A talked about it for years. TA finally made some after the Bulldog block venture ended in ashes. A block and crank will set you back 10K. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254471 06/22/12 07:18 PM 06/22/12 07:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,201 Park Forest, IL	Quote: TA finally made some after the Bulldog block venture ended in ashes. A block and crank will set you back 10K. And that is a real good start on a R-M motor. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: slantzilla] #1254472 06/23/12 07:21 PM 06/23/12 07:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA Defbob master
Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	Big block chrysler in a Gm 68-72 GM A-body 7262429-IMG_7594.JPG (157 downloads)

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254473 06/23/12 11:39 PM 06/23/12 11:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,904 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,904 S.E. Michigan	I know my 2" super comps have different bends to them than the ones shown. The ones shown also appear to have thicker flanges than super comps but that might be an illusion. Maybe the car in the pic has one of the smaller tube sizes like 1 and 7/8. These are b body 2" super comps FWIW.... 7262811-bbodyheaderleft.jpg (102 downloads) Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: ZIPPY] #1254474 06/24/12 09:05 AM 06/24/12 09:05 AM
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webemopes enthusiast Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 268 South Central Pa	the headers in the first pic look an awful lot like doug thorly headers to me .they hug in pretty tight to the block and were one of the first to enable you to install a 383 in an a-body mopar

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254475 08/20/12 01:58 PM 08/20/12 01:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook OP enthusiast
d7cook OP enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	It's begun. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 440 in a 68-72 GM A body. [Re: d7cook] #1254476 08/20/12 04:31 PM 08/20/12 04:31 PM
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B5 Bee master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea	Nice sig line. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

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