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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 1967dartgt] #1241921
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I thought of adapting one myself, but passed on the notion. lots of extra plumbing with no real gain. but, my cam makes just enough vacuum to power the booster, and by downshifting the stick, I don't have to worry about lack of vacuum other than when moving slowly or in stop/go traffic.

but in stop/go traffic, you're not going fast enough to need "full braking power" anyway.

if you have a very radical cam, I can see the benefit, however, my personal preference, would be to find the right sized manual master cylinder for a much simpler, cleaner install and engine bay.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 1967dartgt] #1241922
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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: Viol8r] #1241923
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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.




Care to elaborate why you put it in the top 3 mods for the car?

Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 1967dartgt] #1241924
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I have the Hydratech setup in my Challenger with Viper brakes. It is ok...the pedal feel could be better. Kind of hard to modulate the brakes. Also had a Cummins 1 ton dually with OEM hydroboost and the pedal feel was much better on the truck. Brakes worked really well for an 8000lb truck.

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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.




Care to elaborate why you put it in the top 3 mods for the car?




For my particular build which I had a goal to be a very reliable, easy driving, with a touch of modern feel to it. But also be able to hit the track hard and compete with some of the best cars out there, it fits it perfect. It gives it a new car feel on the street along with the reliability and performance to keep up with the big calipers on the car.

My feeling is, if this system does not feel right on the car, then you have missed something with the combination. A lot of guys just do not get the M/C combination right with the calipers on the car. That is step one.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: Viol8r] #1241926
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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.




Care to elaborate why you put it in the top 3 mods for the car?




For my particular build which I had a goal to be a very reliable, easy driving, with a touch of modern feel to it. But also be able to hit the track hard and compete with some of the best cars out there, it fits it perfect. It gives it a new car feel on the street along with the reliability and performance to keep up with the big calipers on the car.

My feeling is, if this system does not feel right on the car, then you have missed something with the combination. A lot of guys just do not get the M/C combination right with the calipers on the car. That is step one.




What do you think of the modulation comparted to Vacuum boosted and a manual setup?

Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: Viol8r] #1241927
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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.




Care to elaborate why you put it in the top 3 mods for the car?




For my particular build which I had a goal to be a very reliable, easy driving, with a touch of modern feel to it. But also be able to hit the track hard and compete with some of the best cars out there, it fits it perfect. It gives it a new car feel on the street along with the reliability and performance to keep up with the big calipers on the car.

My feeling is, if this system does not feel right on the car, then you have missed something with the combination. A lot of guys just do not get the M/C combination right with the calipers on the car. That is step one.




100% agreed here. I use hydroboost units in all my builds and couldn't be happier. If you have something wrong in terms of feel or performance you've mismatched something. Too many brake systems on the market are mismatched yielding poor performance.

Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: autoxcuda] #1241928
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Who here uses hydoboost braking set ups? What do you think of them?




I run the Tallon Hydraboost system.......I put it in the top three for mods done to my car.




Care to elaborate why you put it in the top 3 mods for the car?




For my particular build which I had a goal to be a very reliable, easy driving, with a touch of modern feel to it. But also be able to hit the track hard and compete with some of the best cars out there, it fits it perfect. It gives it a new car feel on the street along with the reliability and performance to keep up with the big calipers on the car.

My feeling is, if this system does not feel right on the car, then you have missed something with the combination. A lot of guys just do not get the M/C combination right with the calipers on the car. That is step one.




What do you think of the modulation comparted to Vacuum boosted and a manual setup?




It may take you 2 minutes to get used to it. The system does deliver a more intense pressure to the system with less pedal effort so you can over do it at first. I love it personally, I know its always ready to go. Again it depends on the combination, with the bigger brake systems it may just have a normal feel to it. But if you combo it up with stock 60's or 70's single piston calipers, it could get a little touchy. But all this can be dealt with when you chose your parts up front.

I personally like to go with a 1 1/8 M/C along with my GEN I/II Viper calipers and GM Metric Wilwood aluminum rear caliper(rear bias adjustment). 12" rotors in the front and 11" in the rear. Medium Grip Hawk HPS pads. Does fine for me. Instant pedal and pretty good performance. Not the best, but good for 8-10 hard laps before I get a little fade. With the varying costs and condition of calipers it is hard to put a firm number, but this set-up will cost around $2k - $2500.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: Viol8r] #1241929
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Hmm, the hydroboost systems actually look pretty easy to install...

I have some other troubleshooting to do, but it should increase pressure and help my 5600# truck stop quicker...


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: RTSE4ME] #1241930
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I have the Hydratech setup in my Challenger with Viper brakes. It is ok...the pedal feel could be better.




I also used the the Hydratech setup and was very pleased! The first time I took the Coronet out I nearly put myself though the windshield it stopped so fast. The 13" Baer brakes helped of coarse.

Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 77ProStreet] #1241931
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What happens when the motor stalls out? is there an accumulator that holds pressure to give you one more brake application? or are you on your own?


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 70Cuda383] #1241932
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In most applications, yes you get 2-3 pumps then its done. Tim

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What happens when the motor stalls out? is there an accumulator that holds pressure to give you one more brake application? or are you on your own?



Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: astjp2] #1241933
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Cool, so the same as a vacuum booster then.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: 70Cuda383] #1241934
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Yep, it reverts to 'manual' brakes after 3 pumps or so. I like the hydroboost concept, especially in very tight engine compartments like my Vega. Also, once you get into 4-wheel discs with 4-piston calipars thats when hydroboost really shines over vacuume assist.


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: DARTH V8Я] #1241935
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Im going to be interested to see how my brakes work when completed. 6 piston/4 piston setup on 14" disks. I wanted to go hydroboost and was told that due to the size of the disks to just try manual first - i would probably like the feel better... if not, hydroboost...


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Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: G_T] #1241936
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I used this setup on a b body I did yrs ago with 14" front 13" rear viper caliper set up. Worked great. I can't believe anyone would consider manual brakes in this day and age....

Re: Hydro boost braking [Re: G_T] #1241937
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Im going to be interested to see how my brakes work when completed. 6 piston/4 piston setup on 14" disks. I wanted to go hydroboost and was told that due to the size of the disks to just try manual first - i would probably like the feel better... if not, hydroboost...




Interesting advice! The boost would only help you more then you know in this situation.


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