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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229647
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There's more, but I'll stop there.

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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229648
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...apparently an original paint survivor.

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Yes it is! The car remains in the family since 1972, and still survives today...

Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: xs29j8] #1229649
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So from all the posts, it looks like the black screens were an early production and/or plant thing and had nothing to do with the stripes. So the answer is yes, kind of, sorta maybe???


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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229650
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I believe that is the original color, but would have to have a close look at it to be sure.

BTW, although I painted my A4 RR's screens red, they have never been removed... when I restore the RR, the dis-assembly showing the original color will be documented.

Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: dart440] #1229651
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So from all the posts, it looks like the black screens were an early production and/or plant thing and had nothing to do with the stripes. So the answer is yes, kind of, sorta maybe???




Something like that!

Personally, unless I had an original paint survivor with the black screens, I'd repaint them in red anyways; I think it looks much better and you are way less likely to have people telling you your screens are the wrong color!



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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229652
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So from all the posts, it looks like the black screens were an early production and/or plant thing and had nothing to do with the stripes. So the answer is yes, kind of, sorta maybe???




Something like that!

Personally, unless I had an original paint survivor with the black screens, I'd repaint them in red anyways; I think it looks much better and you are way less likely to have people telling you your screens are the wrong color!



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I like the look better with the screens red, and will likely go with that color... but still want to document the original color for the early SPD.

Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229653
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this is only my opinion but having ordered a new 1969 road runner with the air grabber option and driving it for tens of thousands of miles and looking at the red air grabber screen out the windshield in front of me and always looking at other '69 road runners as they went by to see if they had the air grabber red screens I never remember seeing a road runner with an air grabber with black screens. Yes I know I never looked under the hood of some of them but cars that I knew that had the air grabber option had red screens and a RED/orange "CARB AIR" knob under the dash and the Dodge cars that had their version of the air grabber the RAMCHARGER had RED/ORANGE duct work and why (IMO) the air filter lids on the fresh air systems were also orange and not black wrinkle finish. It just seemed to me that the RED/ORANGE was marketing's way of highlighting the FRESH AIR PACKAGE components....just my opinion but RED/ORANGE was a marketing performance signature on Mopars during that time. Why have a fresh air performance option and not highlight it with red/orange screens?

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I like the look better with the screens red, and will likely go with that color... but still want to document the original color for the early SPD.




The more information and documentation the better!


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this is only my opinion but having ordered a new 1969 road runner with the air grabber option and driving it for tens of thousands of miles and looking at the red air grabber screen out the windshield in front of me and always looking at other '69 road runners as they went by to see if they had the air grabber red screens I never remember seeing a road runner with an air grabber with black screens. Yes I know I never looked under the hood of some of them but cars that I knew that had the air grabber option had red screens and a RED/orange "CARB AIR" knob under the dash and the Dodge cars that had their version of the air grabber the RAMCHARGER had RED/ORANGE duct work and why (IMO) the air filter lids on the fresh air systems were also orange and not black wrinkle finish. It just seemed to me that the RED/ORANGE was marketing's way of highlighting the FRESH AIR PACKAGE components....just my opinion but RED/ORANGE was a marketing performance signature on Mopars during that time. Why have a fresh air performance option and not highlight it with red/orange screens?





One clarification though; '69 Ramcharger (and very early '70) air boxes were black.

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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229656
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this is only my opinion but having ordered a new 1969 road runner with the air grabber option and driving it for tens of thousands of miles and looking at the red air grabber screen out the windshield in front of me and always looking at other '69 road runners as they went by to see if they had the air grabber red screens I never remember seeing a road runner with an air grabber with black screens. Yes I know I never looked under the hood of some of them but cars that I knew that had the air grabber option had red screens and a RED/orange "CARB AIR" knob under the dash and the Dodge cars that had their version of the air grabber the RAMCHARGER had RED/ORANGE duct work and why (IMO) the air filter lids on the fresh air systems were also orange and not black wrinkle finish. It just seemed to me that the RED/ORANGE was marketing's way of highlighting the FRESH AIR PACKAGE components....just my opinion but RED/ORANGE was a marketing performance signature on Mopars during that time. Why have a fresh air performance option and not highlight it with red/orange screens?





One clarification though; '69 Ramcharger (and very early '70) air boxes were black.

Dave




Well than that only helps to confirm that some early air grabber's may have had BLACK screens too My rr was a March '69 ordered car delivered in April '69 and IIRC there seemed to be a large run of Hemi cars around December '68 through Feb '69 from a few Hemi VIN's I've seen so John Hemi cars for sure may have had black screens

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Yeah, just for clarity; I have no doubt that some cars came with black screens....I just don't think it had anything to do with the V21 stripes. We've seen survivor pics now showing all four:

- V21 AG with black screens
- V21 AG with red screens
- non V21 AG with black screens
- non V21 AG with red screens.

That would seem to indicate that the screen color was independant of the hood stripe option IMO.


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Re: 1969 Road Runner Hood Insert Colors [Re: DPelletier] #1229658
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Yeah, just for clarity; I have no doubt that some cars came with black screens....I just don't think it had anything to do with the V21 stripes. We've seen survivor pics now showing all four:

- V21 AG with black screens
- V21 AG with red screens
- non V21 AG with black screens
- non V21 AG with red screens.

That would seem to indicate that the screen color was independant of the hood stripe option IMO.


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And I believe the main reason we do not see more cars with black screens today is that previous owners did what I did in about 1980...

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