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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: cageman]
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04/10/12 02:54 AM
04/10/12 02:54 AM
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Detroit, MI
CokeBottleKid
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Hmm, explain how they are light years ahead, they have the same guts all my bilsteins have 
I can take any reg ol bilstein and put any ol valve in em I want, for 64 and 114 bucks a piece, and they will be a better shock than your fancy unengineered have to cut the car apart shocks that are adjustable. If you cant figure out how to put a shock on a car with out hacking the car, you really have no clue on what valving should be, so the adjustable part will just get you out of the ball park more than youll be in it. If you dont know how to walk, you have no business running. Your used car salesman tactics havent fooled me one bit.
Hey Backwoods moron, read my post again and stop taking sentences out of context.
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more exotic (and expensive) than the already lightyears-better-than-stock shocks they sell.
I was referring to the regular Bilsteins Hotchkis sells as being lightyears better than stock mopar shocks.
I only stated the shocks I gave him are way more exotic and expensive than regular steel body Bilsteins.
IE:
- These are threaded aluminum body shocks vs. steel smooth body
- Shrader valve filled shocks rather than formed tube which means they are bench rebuildable vs. send them back to Bilstein only.
-Snap-ring guide vs. crimp guide which means you can rebuild them vs. throw them away.
-Adjustable piston rod vs. non adjustable piston rod
-Heim ends vs. Bushings
But by all means everyone should listen to you instead of someone that worked as an Engineer at Bilstein.
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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04/10/12 03:33 AM
04/10/12 03:33 AM
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Phoenix, AZ
Jjs72D
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Excuse me, Mr Coke Bottle Kid!
I think that the problem that us simple folk had here may have been with the fact that while a "free" set of shocks seems like a nice gesture, the modifications needed to fit them may be extensive. I'll take your word that they may be fantastic for the mans car if all the changes are made to fit them.
Your comments are a clear example of anonymous internet bullying. A fair and reasonable person wouldn't result to calling people a "backwoods moron".
Jeff
Last edited by Jjs72D; 04/10/12 03:35 AM.
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
#1201267
04/10/12 04:34 AM
04/10/12 04:34 AM
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Bismarck, ND USA
cageman
mopar
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Bismarck, ND USA
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Explain why a threaded body is advantagous? Heim ends on the street arent any good, but I guess you think it is. schrader valve, and rebuildable, why would I need that, they are adjustable. Unless you like to change oil every ten miles, then by all means. But to bad they are too long, you bottom that bad boy out, you ruin the end cap and seal, where the snap ring end caps give a little.
And here I thought I was a cityboy, guess not.
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: cageman]
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04/10/12 11:48 PM
04/10/12 11:48 PM
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So Cal
autoxcuda
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So Cal
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I can take any reg ol bilstein and put any ol valve in em I want, for 64 and 114 bucks a piece,...
Could you list the part numbers or models for this bilstein shock?
Is it a fully adjustable mono tube shock that will fit stock in the stock mounts up front?
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: cageman]
#1201270
04/11/12 12:09 AM
04/11/12 12:09 AM
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Nebraska
72Swinger
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Explain why a threaded body is advantagous? Heim ends on the street arent any good, but I guess you think it is. schrader valve, and rebuildable, why would I need that, they are adjustable. Unless you like to change oil every ten miles, then by all means. But to bad they are too long, you bottom that bad boy out, you ruin the end cap and seal, where the snap ring end caps give a little.
And here I thought I was a cityboy, guess not.
an externally threaded body allows the end cap to be threaded onto the outside of the body instead of into the body. Couple that with a welded shaft eye and you can usually gain 2" of travel to a similar travel shock but in a 2" shorter compressed length. I'm not an ex bilstein employee but I have figured that much out working with King on my old truck.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: JonsGottaDusta]
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04/11/12 11:56 AM
04/11/12 11:56 AM
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Marlboro, NY, USA
Rick_Ehrenberg
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Marlboro, NY, USA
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Once past the personal / political crap, it seems to boil down to this:
1. He attached the outer tie rod ends to the TOP of the knuckle arm for wheel clearance. This will, of course, drive bump steer numbers off the chart!
2. He's using Heim joint for tie rod ends. To me, this is very scary, and banned at many tracks.
Any non-political / personal comments?
Rick
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Re: '71 Duster Front Suspension Woahs!
[Re: CokeBottleKid]
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04/16/12 06:16 PM
04/16/12 06:16 PM
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central Florida
VL21
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central Florida
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basic shock knowledge since you clearly lack any. (the little cuppy thing that seperates the gasy chamber from the oily stuff). And the gasy chamber (the place with the hissy stuff)  ...place with the hissy stuff? I always thought that was Moparts! 
It takes gasoline to interest me.
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