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Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi #1196127
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Well here it is. Looks kind of cool on there?

I think I want to buy it, just for the
"what the heck is that?" factor




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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196128
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Well here it is. Looks kind of cool on there?

I think I want to buy it.





I think I want to see it!Link is no good Zippy.

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: RTSrunner] #1196129
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Picture was too big so the board dumped it.
I resized it and it's working now.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196130
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Well here it is. Looks kind of cool on there?

I think I want to buy it, just for the
"what the heck is that?" factor






I think it needs to be taller....Is that a modified stock timing cover?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: Dragula] #1196131
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It's a brand new casting.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196132
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I would guess that the drive might look something like this.

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: TrWaters] #1196133
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By now they probably have an extended nose camshaft for this conversion, and use a seperate drive gear. I know Arrington used a modified R5 distributor drive gear on their first conversions. The above was my attempt.

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: TrWaters] #1196134
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I'd definitely like to take it apart for a look-see.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196135
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Quote:

Well here it is. Looks kind of cool on there?

I think I want to buy it, just for the
"what the heck is that?" factor








So what happened to the other eight plugs?

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196136
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Great idea but, the word "HIDEOUS" keeps jumping into my mind.

Does anybody make a belt drive for these yet?

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: MattW] #1196137
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The other eight plugs are just plugged up

It's definitely not for everybody, but should be good for the "I hate computers" crowd which is quite a few folks.

I think it should open the door to guys who want to use the same ignition they're used for the last 25 years, so they can feel comfortable with it.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196138
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No offense Zippy. (SB guy) Thanks for posting.

It does hang out there by an obsene amount though.

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196139
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I see that its running a mech fuel pump also...
is the cap area close to the valve cover? looks
like that dist could be a fair bit lower

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1196140
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No offense taken, nobody can debate that it's hanging way out because...it is!

I think they actually look cleaner in stock form with no distributor at all, coil on plug '06 and later or 6.1, etc. That doesn't apply to ones like my '03 though, with the crossover wires running all over the place....

Seems like the cap area of the dist. and the head + valve cover are all trying to occupy the same area. Nowhere to go but up I guess? I think the distributor comes from an AMC but would have to check.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196141
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Well at least it's on the 'right' side of the engine...

I've got 5.7L in my garage waiting for me to pour money into it by making it run in my Dart.
Been going through the options of how to fuel it and controlling the ignition, but I'm favoring for a Megasquirt-'puter and a propane vapour injection fuelsystem, for now.

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: ZIPPY] #1196142
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I've asked this before, with no answere, has anyone tried this on a dyno. I would like to know what would be the HP loss if any running only 8 plugs.
My run an belt driven distributor of the nose of the camshaft.
Like EMC probably cheaper.
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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: MattW] #1196143
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I think I saw an artical in hot rod or some rag that tested a carbed 3rd gen with a dist like that with no difference in power to 16 plugs.crate motor dyno test I think. all my v8s run ok on just 8 plugs.


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Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: yella71] #1196144
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just buy the msd hemi 6 and be done.in this case looks cost way to much,[dist,valve covers,etc].when the hood is shut who sees it.timing is timing looks=?

Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: sam64] #1196145
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Now if Edelbrock would just finish tooling up that single 4 intake that has been designed and tested but won't release because they think there is no market....

One would think that if there is a market for a 5.7/6.1 distributor conversion, surely there is a market for a good dual plane intake.


Re: Old school ignition for Gen 3 Hemi [Re: topbrent] #1196146
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It'll fit fine with stock valve covers. No need for anything fancy.

It's a deal where hating computers just might cost somebody extra, and create extra effort. The hemi 6 seems like a good piece, and might even cost less at the end of the day. But some are against using stuff like that.

Alot of circle track apps MUST have a distributor per their rules, and 5.7s are more plentiful in the junkyards than 360s anymore, so there is a door that could open.

The intake manifold thing is just ridiculous. It's been done for six years, they need to just make the dumb thing already.


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