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Correct A990 Hemi Spark Plug Wires? #118425
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can anyone post the correct spark plug wires for the 65 plymouth and dodge A990 Hemi cars.
when i was at the hemi reunion i saw a variation of spark plug dust boots and colors.
from burnt orange like the max wedge cars to the red color.
looking to buy the correct restoration style. thanks

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I have not seen a correct reproduction of the wire. It was a deep brick red color with black boots. I'm pretty sure the versions with the tan plug extensions are the 64/65 originals, the later 67/68 SS Hemi style being those with the more familiar looking "balloon" style boots and white extensions.

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I have not seen a correct reproduction of the wire. It was a deep brick red color with black boots. I'm pretty sure the versions with the tan plug extensions are the 64/65 originals, the later 67/68 SS Hemi style being those with the more familiar looking "balloon" style boots and white extensions.




scott, is anyone making anything slightly resembling the 65 a990 plug wire?

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Sorry, nothing I'd use so far. I've seen the boots on some oddball non performance Mopar applications of the same vintage, the bare wire was the same used by Corvettes of the era, might help in your search for materials. Original sets can sell for big $.

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Scott, what sets had the more orange color ? There were originals there with orange. The 68 mile 71 Rod Shop Charger had orange. I thought that race Hemi 64-65 had the orange , and 68 Hemi LO-BO cars had left over 59 Hemi wires, which were more brick red ?? These are the wrong spark plug tubes for these 180 boots. The tubes for these boots are larger in diameter. Just made some sets from originals.



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Those wires above on the 64 were date coded Packards from 8-67 I think they had the correct boots for the car, but wrong colored wire and s.p. tubes. I forget which car these were on, but my 7mm wire is identical in color and look.. Plus its a quality suppression wire..I also have the orange in a solid core, stainless, just like the originals !! Be prepared next week for pics and announcements for original-looking, orange max wedge and race Hemi sets !! Just give us your boots and tubes. You will be happy, guaranteed.


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Sunroof, you've reached the depth of my off the cuff knowledge on this subject, I will dig into my files for more info and see what I can come up with to answer your questions.

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Here is another set. Not sure what racers did back then. There are alot of different stories. We drilled Herb M while you were there, and also Chuck West and Dave Koffel. Kramer too. They all say that the 68 ss cars used leftover 57 Hemi wires, that made them the redder sets.Packard still made them, and was a supplier to Chrysler. They still had the 57 red Packard wire on spools, so they used that up.For race Hemi and 71 Rod Shop car, we believe, that they went back to the orange that they used starting for the Max Wedge, then 64-65 Race Hemi Cars. It started to be available in the later 60's, so racers just used those because Chrysler had the dealerships stock only a couple for the 68SS cars. Sorry Scott. I just learned all of this info in the last month ! You are still one of my heroes..


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I forget which car these were on, but my 7mm wire is identical in color and look.




That pic is of Don Grother's 68 Barracuda. (the race version car not the show car)

I'm pretty sure the original 68 cars still used the dark red wires.

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Ok, I have no records or photos of any original Race Hemi wires that were orange, everything I have shows the dark clay red. The tan plug extensions were used at least into 1967 as an original RO/WO set I used to own had those. They were stamped Chrysler Corp and had date codes like the later Street Hemi wires but the ink stampings were black not yellow. The flush mount boots do seem to be 64/65 only. The flush mount boots and extensions were right out of the parts catalog, original application was Slant 6 engines.

Another wierd wire application I found was the 1963 300J engine with Short Ram intakes, they may have also used an orange wire (I was told these are originals but can't confirm, the boots look funky to be OEM) that used a special asbestos "sock" that was used on some of them to keep them from burning on the special 3 foot long exhaust manifolds.

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Scott, what sets had the more orange color ? There were originals there with orange. The 68 mile 71 Rod Shop Charger had orange. I thought that race Hemi 64-65 had the orange , and 68 Hemi LO-BO cars had left over 59 Hemi wires, which were more brick red ?? These are the wrong spark plug tubes for these 180 boots. The tubes for these boots are larger in diameter. Just made some sets from originals.







so first off, which boots are correct, straight up or 90 degree angle?
not talking about any 68 ss cars here just 65 a990 cars, i believe they had the red wires, i believe they were packard wires as well.

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I was always lead to believe the Race Hemi wires were 8mm wire , not sure of the max wedge wires.

Also, Chrysler spark plug wires were not date coded prior to approx 1963 or 64.

I remember looking at an early 60's dodge about 10 years ago and thought it was odd the wires had Packard lettering and no date code. At first I thought they were an over the counter GM supplied wire but was told later they were Mopar OE.

Anyone care to confirm,,, or rebut


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They had the straight boots based on all evidence I've found so far. The red wires as well, I'm still looking into Packard vs Chrysler markings. 67's had Chrysler stampings, earlier ones I'm not sure yet. I'm still digging, I have allot of old pics and notes to go over still.

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So whats the verdict on the 68 SS cars... RED RIGHT:)

Whats the price going to be on the repros...SUNROOF? I have a set of NOS Direct Connection boots and tubes.

Jason

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Jason I've seen nothing but red wire with Chrysler stampings and date codes on original 68's. I can't say they all came that way but I'd bet in that direction. They should have had the Street Hemi style boots as well. A friend of mine has an old NOS spool of Packard wire, it's stamped "Packard" and is date coded the 3rd quarter of 1963, problem is that it's black wire not red. I'm not sure of the application but it's from an old Chrysler dealer inventory he bought out years ago. I believe the stamping is in white.

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Here is part of the sets we made for Dick Towers. We used his boots and tubes, and our wire. Correct, the 180 boots had a totally different spark plug tube and dust boot than the 135 degree later-style Hemi. The earliest date coded wire we've seen , as stated , was 66 or 67, in orange, if I remember correctly. 8mm wire did not come out until the late 70's , from Delphi for GM's. Our wire is 7mm and not the redder type, it's the dull orange. pics are hard to show. As we understood it , from a half a dozen guys that would know, the redder Hemi wire was left over from the 57 Hemi's, and since only around 100 68 SS cars were to be built, they had enough left over on the shelf from the old Chryslers, they used that.

Early max wedge and 64-65 Hemicars had the dull orange. Through the years, dealerships got more of the red in, for whatever reason, and customers or mechanics re-wired with the redder orange.

Below is 7mm and for 64-65 race-Hemi only. Special spark plug tubes are needed. Again, they were only made of aluminum, and most were harshly-used and tossed, and guys ended up using the later-model tubes and boots.


Below is the later model boots, but still the original color orange. Dick is using this combo for a dual-plug Hemi.


Both styles. Once we get enough sets made, we will be making an announcement through here and the mags. As of right now, we will make customers sets , using their boots and tubes. We have the wire in solid core, like original, and in suppression, for MSD's and radio-friendly. They are premium sets, and priced accordingly. But a lot cheaper than those found on the bag !!!



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sunroof,

I'll post data as I find it.

*Just as an aside to your above post, the early Hemi production ended in 1958 with the 392, 1959 was the first year of the wedge head engine.

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Ahhh, I knew those old guys had lost it !!! Thanks, Chuck should have your wires !!


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