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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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05/18/12 08:43 AM
05/18/12 08:43 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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I've shopped around for spacers myself. billet adapters that are 3/4" or thicker, which are the type that bolt to your hub, then a second set of studs to bolt on your wheel, with hub centrics on both sides of the adapter to locate the spacer to the hub, and the wheel to the spacer, seems to be about $80-100 a piece.
if anyone is selling a set for less, question the material they are made from!
I only know of 3 or 4 vendors who CNC the spacers, to custom specs, per order.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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05/18/12 12:32 PM
05/18/12 12:32 PM
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Grand Haven, MI
patrick
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the 6061 billet bolt on adapters I showed above were $192/set of 4 including the 20 wide seat lugnuts....but that was in 2002
$200/set seems fair to me
Last edited by patrick; 05/18/12 12:33 PM.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: patrick]
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05/18/12 04:08 PM
05/18/12 04:08 PM
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central CT
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I bought the cheapest set I could find on ebay. $50/pr. Solid 6061 with good studs and lug nuts. Well spent $100 imo.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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05/20/12 03:57 PM
05/20/12 03:57 PM
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Grand Haven, MI
patrick
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not too much....mine were probably about 2 lbs per at the most.
and the wheels I was using were 17x8 ford motorsports "bullit" wheels...IIRC they're 19-22 lb ea....
1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD
1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!***
2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: Kern Dog]
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09/19/12 10:06 PM
09/19/12 10:06 PM
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Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi
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Does anyone have a "brand" name of adapter that they can recommend? I'm thinking that as soon as I finish my wheel tub mods, I'd like to push the rear wheels out another inch each side. Having the wheels REhooped would be over $300 each including shipping.
No need for new outers I would say...just get your centers cut out and moved outward. You should be able to sneak about an inch worth before the area on the outer that was cut would show past the center.
Around $50-60 per wheel to cut and move them would be average I'd say for a wheel shop.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: Kern Dog]
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09/19/12 10:51 PM
09/19/12 10:51 PM
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Texas
GoodysGotaCuda
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Does anyone have a "brand" name of adapter that they can recommend? I'm thinking that as soon as I finish my wheel tub mods, I'd like to push the rear wheels out another inch each side. Having the wheels REhooped would be over $300 each including shipping.
I run B.O.R.As on my Jeep. They will custom machine you very high quality spacers [in the US] and do custom bore sizes so that your new aftermarket wheels have the exact bore conversion to keep them hubcentric.
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/special/truck/nissan_s
Top notch parts.
I've logged 50,000 miles with wheel spacers on my Jeep. No issues. They're currently turning 120lb wheels on my Jeep, 1.5" spacers.
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Good spacers ain't cheap though...
http://wheeladapter.com/
Yikes! But they don't need to be that expensive either! ~$200 here for Jeep spacers, $365 there! These are no slouch in quality. 6061 billet aluminum, machined in house, grade 10? [if I recall right] studs, anodized.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: MUSLCA]
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09/20/12 01:06 AM
09/20/12 01:06 AM
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Washington State, USA
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ive got one- got som tires mounted at a shop for my dart and when i got them home i noticed they were rubbing in the rear -BAD.had to take the car to work the next day and had no money.my buddy loaned me a pair of half inch cast spacers so my tires would clear but this left me with only half the threads of the lugnuts eguaging  forty thousand miles later when they finnaly came off it felt no different than breaking loose a lug that was seated all the way.they were all still torqued great.the first four months i worked without a day off and commuted 150 miles a day. show me broken spacers.
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: ThermoQuad]
#1178447
09/20/12 01:30 AM
09/20/12 01:30 AM
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Imo the word autocross is not a good word on here.
Autocross is child's play compared to running high speed laps. [Mitch this is not directed at you and your talent] Then again a wheel spacer would shows it colors under the duress of autocross...
The whole concept of corner carving is to take these old cars we drive and make them drive better everywhere. Very few people on here have the $$$$$$$$$$$ to race let alone run 2 days on the road course in a driving school. It costs $650.00+ for 2 days at the track. Fuel, food, gas, oil, motel, $420.00 entry fee...now add the cost of what was spent on the car.
I don't care who uses wheel spacers on their expensive cars, as they "engineered" the spacers into the concept. For us it's a bad concept and a compromise. Then again if you are building a show car that looks like it might take a corner fast then wheel spacers are fine.
aside from me getting a seriose "grey poupon"vibe from this statement
id like to see proof that for the danger of adding a wheel spacer its safer to keep less tire/rim under your car?if peaple cant afford 1500 rims they should be driving around on good old mopar cop car rims and 15' tires with gelatinouse sidewalls?id take the added safety of a 17'rim and sticky lo pro tire with the phantom failures you guys say will happen someday . 
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Re: wheel spacers
[Re: Winchester 73]
#1178448
09/20/12 10:58 AM
09/20/12 10:58 AM
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my buddy loaned me a pair of half inch cast spacers so my tires would clear but this left me with only half the threads of the lugnuts eguaging forty thousand miles later when they finnaly came off it felt no different than breaking loose a lug that was seated all the way.they were all still torqued great.the first four months i worked without a day off and commuted 150 miles a day.
Yup, I believe it. I'm sure there are thousands of people who have done this with similar results. Heck, when I was younger I had a street car with 1/4" cast spacers on it that I drove daily for a while. No issues. However...
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[id like to see proof that for the danger of adding a wheel spacer its safer to keep less tire/rim under your car?if peaple cant afford 1500 rims they should be driving around on good old mopar cop car rims and 15' tires with gelatinouse sidewalls?id take the added safety of a 17'rim and sticky lo pro tire with the phantom failures you guys say will happen someday .
Every sanctioning body I have ever raced with has a rule prohibiting spacers. I've seen 5/8 studs and special built racing wheels fail. I certainly wouldn't want to tempt fate with a spacer on a stock platform.
But, maybe that is the apples to oranges comparison. A casual street driver is not going to stress load components to the same degree as a race vehicle. The grey area may come in around those performance driving situations that aren't "race" per say, but are a more rigorous driving scenario. Maybe some guys do this on the street on a regualr basis, maybe not. Dunno.
There also is the issue of cast vs extruded vs machined vs forged. I don't think anyone would disagree that the garden variety of parts store slip on cast spacers are the cheapest and weakest of the bunch. I've seen these spacers crack in street use. I've seen similarly cast lowering blocks obliterated into powder. If I was going to be pushing my car at all, I'd certainly avoid these and run less tire than use cast spacers. Now many newer, stronger types of spacers are available and in use. If you want to run them to dial in spacing, you will probably be okay in street applciations. Is the world going to come crashing down on you, probably not, but it is one more component in the chain and another opportunity for a defect to be manifested in catstrophic failure. Its a calculated risk. We take many of those every day. If the calculations tell you to use them, then use them. But don't be surprised if you take your car to the track and are refused entry because of them.
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