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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: curleysracecars]
#1174935
02/15/12 07:23 PM
02/15/12 07:23 PM
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Bismarck, ND USA
cageman
mopar
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Yeah, no kidding, your kit fits that hole great. I was always going to weld in an upper ball joint sleeve in that hole and lathe up some strut rods to attach to the ball joints threads, but I didnt want to go through all that work for the tech to say it is not legal, then you have a butchered up k frame that is welded solid into the car. And that looks nothing like a johnny joint. Never seen one of those before. 
Last edited by cageman; 02/15/12 07:29 PM.
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: cageman]
#1174937
02/15/12 11:54 PM
02/15/12 11:54 PM
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Pikes Peak Country
TC@HP2
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Pikes Peak Country
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I was always going to weld in an upper ball joint sleeve in that hole and lathe up some strut rods to attach to the ball joints threads,
I had a simialr idea, but rather than mess with welding a socket, drill four holes and bolt in a chevy ball joint. Put some left hand threads on the control arm stub, use a chrome moly tube, voila' adjustable strut rod with 360 degree pivot capability.
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: curleysracecars]
#1174938
02/17/12 12:50 PM
02/17/12 12:50 PM
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California, USA!!!
WheelsUp73
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California, USA!!!
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I see what you mean now Tom...thanks for the pictures. I will look into these. Having trouble staying motivated when there are a bunch of guys who are "in" on something, then when they are actually produced, everyone crawls under the shell and all of the sudden isnt interested anymore. I realize its part of business, but it gets annoying. Patience I guess...
Thanks again for the input.
IMHO the brace is not needed on the Mopar. The mustangs run them because the inner fender well supports the coil spring and the shock so there is alot more stress on the inner fender on the mustangs.
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: ThermoQuad]
#1174940
02/18/12 12:45 PM
02/18/12 12:45 PM
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So Cal
autoxcuda
Too Many Posts
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Too Many Posts
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So Cal
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I will tell you that after running 3 large mopars on the roadcourse that the fender brace to firewall is needed
Superbird
Charger
Cuda
Why don't we try it and stop speculating. Why does my R body have diagonal supports the go to the firewall, when that already is a fairly rigid car? Actually much more rigid that its predecessors.
And the factory added them (similiar ideas) to 72 B-bodies and 73 up A-bodies.
Sure, they are not needed on a drag car. But this is not a drag car forum.
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: autoxcuda]
#1174941
02/18/12 08:09 PM
02/18/12 08:09 PM
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Middleton, ID
curleysracecars
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I totally agree the engine compartment brace is needed...and would help tremendously. Problem is the differences in everyones engine choice, as well as a lack of a good place for firewall mounting without major fab. I have no problem trying to build something, but feel it would be a tough sell.
Kyle Curley
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: curleysracecars]
#1174942
02/18/12 08:33 PM
02/18/12 08:33 PM
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SoCal
MuuMuu101
I got lucky at Woodward!
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I got lucky at Woodward!
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I totally agree the engine compartment brace is needed...and would help tremendously. Problem is the differences in everyones engine choice, as well as a lack of a good place for firewall mounting without major fab. I have no problem trying to build something, but feel it would be a tough sell.
That's another thing. I know XV Motorsports sell them for a reasonable amount but just looking at their part, I don't like it too much. Sure it may help with the overall rigidity of the engine bay, but I think it could be engineered better. There are just too many bends in them which allows more opportunities for failure.
Here they are:
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/de...is%20Stiffening
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/de...is%20Stiffening
Even the B-Body stiffeners are more boxy than triangulated. Sure it may help a bit, but it could be better.
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: MuuMuu101]
#1174944
02/18/12 08:39 PM
02/18/12 08:39 PM
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On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
amxautox
Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
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Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
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On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
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Yes, too many bends that could bend more and kink.
I like mine - posted in another thread.
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Adjustable Strut Rods
[Re: amxautox]
#1174945
02/18/12 10:41 PM
02/18/12 10:41 PM
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the frozen wastes...
Pale_Roader
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Swears too much
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the frozen wastes...
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I think both the triangular engine comp. brace and subframe connectors will always be a losing effort to produce to sell. Great maybe for a 94-up Mustang where everyone does the same damn mods all the time, but these cars we have are all gonna be custom. You'd have to build 30 different braces and 20 different connectors. The ones that are on the market never seem to work the way they were engineered to, because the bodies were not built consistently.
Best to share ideas on these two pieces i think, and see what people come up with. My ideas ov and needs for a subframe connector are gonna be different than anyone else's here. And even if they were the same, the floor on my 70 Challenger is likely gonna be slightly different than the one XV or that other brand's mock-up car's floor, so i might as well just design and make my own. I already have a good idea how i'm gonna build my engine comp. brace.
Most ov the stuff brought to market i see have a lot ov compromise built in, for whatever reasons. Myself, am not big on compromise, so little ov the aftermarket stuff out there appeals to me.
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