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6 spd swap progress #1172621 02/05/12 05:07 PM 02/05/12 05:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	I started this deal a few weeks ago, and I have threads on other sites about it but this site seems to have more interest. 72 Dart with a 451 and about to have a Viper 6spd. 7055157-firstmockup.jpg (202 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172622 02/05/12 05:11 PM 02/05/12 05:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Let the butcher get to work! 7055170-tunnelfirsttry.jpg (188 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172623 02/05/12 05:13 PM 02/05/12 05:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Clutch master cylinder im using is a Wilwood 7/8 bore. Here it is mocked up. 7055174-master2.jpg (165 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172624 02/05/12 05:14 PM 02/05/12 05:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Yeah... 7055178-master1.jpg (164 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172625 02/05/12 05:17 PM 02/05/12 05:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Should work, it bottoms out on the pedal box at the same time the master does. Have since installed pedal stops to dial it in. 7055185-master3.jpg (143 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172626 02/05/12 05:41 PM 02/05/12 05:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Getting there.. 7055241-025.JPG (140 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172627 02/05/12 05:42 PM 02/05/12 05:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Crossmember tacked in... 7055245-028.JPG (160 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172628 02/05/12 05:44 PM 02/05/12 05:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	A view of the clearance, trans is 1/4-3/8" higher than it needs to be... 7055247-029.JPG (139 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172629 02/05/12 05:45 PM 02/05/12 05:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Passenger side tunnel shot.. 7055250-005.JPG (137 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172630 02/05/12 05:46 PM 02/05/12 05:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	And drivers... 7055253-006.JPG (141 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172631 02/05/12 05:47 PM 02/05/12 05:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Carpet will work, just regular auto carpet.... 7055258-001.JPG (139 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172632 02/05/12 06:17 PM 02/05/12 06:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 685 Bismarck, ND USA C cageman mopar
cageman mopar C Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 685 Bismarck, ND USA	I used a 91 s10 master cylinder, it basically bolted into the rubber boot hole where the old clutch rod went, I just have a 5 speed, thats alot of shifting in my abody, but I spose with a 451, youll be able to pull 6th easy so if geared right, it is basically a 5 speed till you get to the highway. Im not sure on the ratios. Looks good

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172633 02/05/12 06:20 PM 02/05/12 06:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 15,119 85086 moparpollack Lil Herman
moparpollack Lil Herman Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 15,119 85086	Quote: I started this deal a few weeks ago, and I have threads on other sites about it but this site seems to have more interest. 72 Dart with a 451 and about to have a Viper 6spd. So all you had to is change the disc? Or did you have to buy a new flywheel and clutch? 56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: cageman] #1172634 02/05/12 07:10 PM 02/05/12 07:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: I used a 91 s10 master cylinder, it basically bolted into the rubber boot hole where the old clutch rod went, I just have a 5 speed, thats alot of shifting in my abody, but I spose with a 451, youll be able to pull 6th easy so if geared right, it is basically a 5 speed till you get to the highway. Im not sure on the ratios. Looks good Yep I pondered other options for the master. The Viper slave has like 1.5" of travel and the Wilwood has 1.2" so we will see. Most have used a 3/4" bore but I havent seen any that didnt have issues so I went with 7/8". Worse case ill either change holes on the clutch pedal or have little pedal throw. The Viper has 2.66 1.78 1.30 1.00 .74 .5 for ratios. I have 4.10s and may switch to 3.90s later. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: moparpollack] #1172635 02/05/12 07:13 PM 02/05/12 07:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Quote: I started this deal a few weeks ago, and I have threads on other sites about it but this site seems to have more interest. 72 Dart with a 451 and about to have a Viper 6spd. So all you had to is change the disc? Or did you have to buy a new flywheel and clutch? I had an auto previously so no. Im just gonna use 130tooth 10.5" stuff but with a 26x1 1/8" spline disc. So if a guy already had a 10.5 diaphram setup I guess he could just change discs though. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172636 02/05/12 11:47 PM 02/05/12 11:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV dodgeboy11 super stock
dodgeboy11 super stock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV	It looks good! Better than mine, which is currently undergoing a similar transformation. Mind has 3.90's right now and I'm considering going to 4.56's with that .5 to 1 sixth gear. Or I might just leave it alone. Like I said, not as pretty as yours. Yet. Mine also has about 5 inches of set back to it which is why the firewall is cut out like it is. Hopefully I will be able to get into a house with a garage so I can leave the car "in progress" and not have to package it up every time I want to work on it. Makes it hard to work up the enthusiasm to tinker with it. The reasons for setting the engine back are twofold: one is the rear sump canton road race pan which now clears the center link with ease. Two is just better weight distribution for handling. Ought to make for a fun handling car though. Provided I ever get it done. 7055936-009.jpg (168 downloads) Last edited by dodgeboy11; 02/05/12 11:53 PM.

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: dodgeboy11] #1172637 02/06/12 12:15 AM 02/06/12 12:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Right on! Engine set back would nice in mine to. Is that a Camaro trans? That shifter will be right next to your hip pocket lol! Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172638 02/07/12 05:03 AM 02/07/12 05:03 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Cool swap, I also picked up a T56 for mine that will be going in this spring. But I have to ask, why is this in the handling section???

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1172639 02/07/12 04:17 PM 02/07/12 04:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger OP master
72Swinger OP master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	6spds are mostly used in cars that can take corners. Good luck on your swap. In a couple weeks I'm gonna have more updates. Will have a clutch/flywheel slave cylinder and a new oil pan. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: 6 spd swap progress [Re: 72Swinger] #1172640 02/09/12 08:28 AM 02/09/12 08:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 662 Tampa FL H hemibeep mopar
hemibeep mopar H Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 662 Tampa FL	keep this post coming...and do you have any pics of tranny support crossmember? This looks soooo tempting.

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