Re: Motivation for running "silver State" type runs?
[Re: jcc]
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02/02/12 05:53 PM
02/02/12 05:53 PM
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but how many fatals are there in our beloved drag racing? Cages don't begin until what, 11.50? Your doing nearly 120 there anyway.
I am not sure it would be a fair comparison of Silver State vs a sanctioned drag strip, I mean a drag strip is a perfectly straight and level prepared road surface with 100% visibility that occurs from zero to a speed determined by the right foot (ie no downhill runs), and never more then a 1/4 mile from a safety/rescue crew and guard rails close enough to likely prevent 90degree impacts, with zero sign/light posts, no drop offs, grass, gravel, etc, etc to consider, Silver state has a lot more unknowns, only valid comparison is both obtain the same speed range, but only for a moment.
That goes to emphasize my point People still die in this "safe" environment. NASCAR, NHRA, Indy, all of them. And to be fair, Life-flight is on stand-by for these events. Some events actually have the helicopter at the start or finish line. SSCC/NORC has 2 aircraft flying a racetrack pattern over the course and over 200 workers lining the road so literally every inch of the course is under someone's direct view.
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Re: Motivation for running "silver State" type runs?
[Re: 67Charger]
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02/03/12 04:19 AM
02/03/12 04:19 AM
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It's exciting, takes serious navigation and driving skills if you want to be a serious competitor, and yes it can be dangerous. IMO the most difficult job is being a navigator, not only because the bumpy ride makes seeing your notes difficult to read at best when meandering along at 150 plus, but for the big brass ones it takes to sit in the passenger seat while you quite literally place your life and all control into the drivers hands. IMO It's definately a "bucket list" item if you are a serious car guy. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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Re: Motivation for running "silver State" type runs?
[Re: dodgeboy11]
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02/04/12 03:17 PM
02/04/12 03:17 PM
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Are you one of the people out there along the side of the road as we pull through to the starting grid from the truck-stop staging area? It amazes ma how many town folk in Ely and Lund sit out and watch the cars go by in the wee morning hours.. W leave Ely around 6. Funny thing is, even with the police escort, most of us are hitting triple digits on the drive down to Lund. The cars toward the front start to lag and create a NICE gap and after each of the corners we "catch up." I've been in the middle of that conga-line doing 110+ with the red/blue flashing about 10 cars back... Good times and a great way to get warmed up/ the head in the game on a frosty morning.
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: Motivation for running "silver State" type runs?
[Re: jcc]
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02/05/12 11:34 PM
02/05/12 11:34 PM
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JCC, Your original question has been pretty well answered, but reading your assumptions, maybe add some insight from another direction. Autocross is very different than road racing. (Solo is the SCCA name for autocross) Behind the wheel it is very quick non-stop action but the car's forward speed rarely exceed 70 and then only for a second or two. You generally try to drive the car at 10/10s for the entire time. There is room for mistakes, and you get three tries (if following SCCA National rules). There is no practice for most autocross events but you do get to walk the course. The Silver State type events ask the driving team to hit 10/10s on the predicted average speed. But that's rather different than hitting 10/10s on car control (or loss of it). One could consider the qualifying part of road racing a 10/10s game, but in reality its not. Everyone knows that the machine and driver has to survive to win and running on the ragged edge the entire time is a big big gamble. Of course it takes great skill and experience to know the difference between 95%, 99%, and 100.1%! That's the beauty of autocross, when you exceed 100% grip there's usually no damage (other than your ego). ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
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Re: Motivation for running "silver State" type runs?
[Re: Mattax]
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02/06/12 01:05 AM
02/06/12 01:05 AM
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Of course it takes great skill and experience to know the difference between 95%, 99%, and 100.1%! That's the beauty of autocross, when you exceed 100% grip there's usually no damage (other than your ego).
You have pretty touched on what looks to be the forest from the trees, and with the responses so far, driving "fast" is enough for some, making avg target speed is enough for others, and very few seem to care or know where 95% is, and that will have to be the answer(s) I was looking for. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eyes.gif)
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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