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Weird Cam Bolt Washer #1168476 01/30/12 11:37 AM 01/30/12 11:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168477 01/30/12 11:38 AM 01/30/12 11:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you.	WRONG washer , thats there because someone LOST the correct one , get it changed out .

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168478 01/30/12 11:44 AM 01/30/12 11:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL M MLR426 master
MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	I would not use that washer look at how the bolt head is cutting into the soft washer. Is that a dome washer ?? logan426

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: MLR426] #1168479 01/30/12 12:46 PM 01/30/12 12:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168480 01/30/12 12:54 PM 01/30/12 12:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason .

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168481 01/30/12 01:13 PM 01/30/12 01:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason . Right, I meant can I use a thick flat washer like from a hardware store. I looked on Summit site and they only show the bolt. I have to place an order with them anyway so I'll ask if they have any in stock. Thanks.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168482 01/30/12 01:14 PM 01/30/12 01:14 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	looks like they used a cupped shock absorber washer? Smallblock has to use a cupped washer, but I'm bot sure about the bigblock? It might be a thick flat washer. I might have a few laying around, I went to the 3-bolt cam/timing sets on all my bigblocks.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: 451Mopar] #1168483 01/30/12 01:30 PM 01/30/12 01:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I called Summit and they don't have anything like that. I need a thick 7/16 flat washer with a 1-1/4" outside diameter to stay inside the pin coming through the cam sprocket. This is a Cloyes timing set. I'm not sure if they are all like this. I'll have to call 440 Source when they open.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168484 01/30/12 01:47 PM 01/30/12 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/camathar1.html $9 at Mancini...bolt and washer..

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168485 01/30/12 02:09 PM 01/30/12 02:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,126 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Quote: Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason . Right, I meant can I use a thick flat washer like from a hardware store. I looked on Summit site and they only show the bolt. I have to place an order with them anyway so I'll ask if they have any in stock. Thanks. I don't thing you are not going to get the correct thick HARDENED washer at the hardware store. I want to say the right washer should overlap the head of that pin some ? I don't remember ???

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168486 01/30/12 02:48 PM 01/30/12 02:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 295 Vallejo, CA D ditchdrift enthusiast
ditchdrift enthusiast D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 295 Vallejo, CA	http://store.440source.com/Bolt-kit-Timing-Chain-to-Camshaft-Single-bolt/productinfo/109-1510/

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: ditchdrift] #1168487 01/30/12 09:20 PM 01/30/12 09:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: http://store.440source.com/Bolt-kit-Timing-Chain-to-Camshaft-Single-bolt/productinfo/109-1510/ Thanks, I ordered that.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168488 01/31/12 06:09 PM 01/31/12 06:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,039 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,039 Rio Linda, CA	The original single-bolt cam washer is a Belleville washer (slightly cup-shaped)...if the replacement isn't a Belleville I would be sure to use red Loctite on the bolt. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: John_Kunkel] #1168489 01/31/12 06:25 PM 01/31/12 06:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL M MLR426 master
MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	Quote: The original single-bolt cam washer is a Belleville washer (slightly cup-shaped)...if the replacement isn't a Belleville I would be sure to use red Loctite on the bolt. Yes I agree with the cupped version but that cupped washer looks dead soft. logan426

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168490 01/31/12 07:05 PM 01/31/12 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC 4 446acuda master
446acuda master 4 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC	Quote: I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it. it looks like somebody lost the correct washer and used some kind of shock washer as a replacement.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: 446acuda] #1168491 01/31/12 08:11 PM 01/31/12 08:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Quote: I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it. it looks like somebody lost the correct washer and used some kind of shock washer as a replacement. That's what it is! I compared it to a shock washer (or maybe sway bar bushing washer) I had in the parts bin and it's identical.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168492 02/01/12 12:39 PM 02/01/12 12:39 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build?

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1168493 02/01/12 01:03 PM 02/01/12 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,622 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,622 md	Quote: makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build? Fram oil filter?

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1168494 02/01/12 01:15 PM 02/01/12 01:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State kidmopar master
kidmopar master Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State	Quote: makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build? Looks like a drilled-out shock absorber washer? I'd sure look a LOT deeper into that one

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: mopars4ever] #1168495 02/01/12 01:26 PM 02/01/12 01:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	And !! 7048024-SAM_2171900x675.jpg (48 downloads)

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: 62maxwgn] #1168496 02/01/12 01:28 PM 02/01/12 01:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced B bboogieart master
bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	The hardware stores around here have hardened bolts and washers. i.e. grade 5 & 8. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: kidmopar] #1168497 02/01/12 01:28 PM 02/01/12 01:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,016 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 I Live Here
Moparnut426 I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,016 Finally a HUSKER again	That is the correct washer for the small block stuff. Its got that concave shape to let the cam come through the fuel pump ecentric on small block set ups. Wrong for a big block, and accually crappy on the small blocks also. I use a billet aluminum washer thats cut to clear the cam. Kasey

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