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aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. #1167311
01/28/12 06:35 PM
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just recieved my new rocker system Tuesday, looked them over and drooled all over the place,this should fix my issues ,,so off to the machine shop first of next week.

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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167312
01/28/12 06:36 PM
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nice stuff.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167313
01/28/12 06:39 PM
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of course I had to pic a crappy picture,,here's another.

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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167314
01/28/12 06:48 PM
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Those are very nice!!Money well spent,love mine.Getting ready to flip some coin on some for another build.

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Moparpoor] #1167315
01/28/12 07:27 PM
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Very nice! It's a bummer that you can't see them when you open the hood. I ordered a set of Jesels for my project. Sure look a lot nicer than my last set!

Randy

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167316
01/28/12 07:33 PM
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where did you get them and how much?

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167317
01/28/12 08:00 PM
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Ooooooooooooo aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! I love my T&D's not cheap, but worth they money IMO

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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167318
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very nice $$$$$$

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Dartin] #1167319
01/28/12 08:44 PM
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Very nice! It's a bummer that you can't see them when you open the hood. I ordered a set of Jesels for my project. Sure look a lot nicer than my last set!

Randy




There is a fellow on YellowBullet that makes clear valve covers.

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Chad Bittle] #1167320
01/28/12 09:11 PM
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Looking good



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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Chad Bittle] #1167321
01/28/12 09:15 PM
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Very nice! It's a bummer that you can't see them when you open the hood. I ordered a set of Jesels for my project. Sure look a lot nicer than my last set!

Randy




There is a fellow on YellowBullet that makes clear valve covers.




Clear Mopar covers?
Gotta link? That place is not easy for me to find stuff, since I rarely lurk there.

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167322
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Money well spent...can't beat T&D's

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Muscles] #1167323
01/28/12 09:43 PM
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Looks purdy Bill

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: RodStRace] #1167324
01/28/12 09:55 PM
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Very nice! It's a bummer that you can't see them when you open the hood. I ordered a set of Jesels for my project. Sure look a lot nicer than my last set!

Randy




There is a fellow on YellowBullet that makes clear valve covers.




Clear Mopar covers?

Gotta link? That place is not easy for me to find stuff, since I rarely lurk there.





Can't find a link, must have been over a year ago when I saw it posted. I'm still searching. I think it was one of the guys that does a lot of carbon fiber work and just did a custom set for someone if I remember correct.

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Muscles] #1167325
01/29/12 12:11 AM
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Money well spent...can't beat T&D's


Riteous buck's for sure,but I feel more confident about the valve train staying together now, just wish I didn't have to replace all the guides this time around too since they are worn out.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167326
01/29/12 12:19 AM
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Nice Bill I sure hope those solve your issue and you get some worry free racing in



Russ

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: max_maniac] #1167327
01/29/12 12:49 AM
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Bill I have used 3 sets over the years and really like them but do yourself a favor and dummy them on the heads as soon as you can to see if they need some clearancing for the valve springs. Some guys send them back so T&D can do the work or you may lose the warranty if you do it yourself.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1167328
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Very nice indeed. Ron

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: 383man] #1167329
01/29/12 03:47 AM
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Very nice Bill.

I wish at times I would have saved a little more money and bought T&D or Jesels. Not unhappy with my Harlands except installing them. PITA!

Good choice. Beep

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Bigbeep] #1167330
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Those look great,Bill! A worthy upgrade indeed!


Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1167331
01/29/12 11:04 AM
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Bill I have used 3 sets over the years and really like them but do yourself a favor and dummy them on the heads as soon as you can to see if they need some clearancing for the valve springs. Some guys send them back so T&D can do the work or you may lose the warranty if you do it yourself.


Thanks for the heads up, Terry is going to take care of that because the heads need to be cut anyways for tip alignment and height they appear that they will fit but would be too close for comfort so the intent is to use a smaller diameter spring to get a little more clearance, would be going from a 1.625 dia to a 1.550.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167332
01/29/12 11:27 AM
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Bill...way too PERRRTY to hide inside a valve cover!

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Labratt] #1167333
01/29/12 12:19 PM
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Bill...way too PERRRTY to hide inside a valve cover!


Yeah,,no kidding,need to be painted the same color as the green on many many dollar bills.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167334
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GO BUCKS !!!!!!!
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thts purty Bill

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: 340RICK] #1167335
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Well I can you this..It ain't about money if it fix the problem.It was down right crazy at times.and very frustrating..To win a round and not be able to go run the next one.. He got a box of junk parts over this deal ! Never in my life seen a deal like this..You never knew when it was going to break..it might go 6-8 rounds and be OK and then it would break 3 rounds in a row ! valve cover bolts are wore out on that car !

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: 340RICK] #1167336
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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: VernMotor] #1167337
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Well I can you this..It ain't about money if it fix the problem.It was down right crazy at times.and very frustrating..To win a round and not be able to go run the next one.. He got a box of junk parts over this deal ! Never in my life seen a deal like this..You never knew when it was going to break..it might go 6-8 rounds and be OK and then it would break 3 rounds in a row ! valve cover bolts are wore out on that car !


Thanks Rick! You are sooooo right Vern, it was exasperating at times, be going some rounds heading for a good showing and then... poof and a mad dash under the hood to try and fix it, not so bad during time trials where I had some time,,,but getting close to round robin racing...


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167338
01/29/12 09:58 PM
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Bill..what set-up were you running??

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Labratt] #1167339
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Bill..what set-up were you running??


1.6 Erson's,,,they don't make them anymore.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167340
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Bill..what set-up were you running??


1.6 Erson's,,,they don't make them anymore.




Bill.. what head are you using... still the commando...
I put the TDs on my W-5s for the Rampage and I cut
(if memory is right) .180 off the bases... but the
W-5 doesnt have the cradle... just a flat pad....
by the way... love the TD stuff

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1167341
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Bill..what set-up were you running??


1.6 Erson's,,,they don't make them anymore.




Bill.. what head are you using... still the commando...
I put the TDs on my W-5s for the Rampage and I cut
(if memory is right) .180 off the bases... but the
W-5 doesnt have the cradle... just a flat pad....
by the way... love the TD stuff



going on the commandos, kinda neat that they sent a gage with the rocker's to measure the stand height and has instruction's on how to do it.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: nhramark] #1167342
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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.






I broke a T&D intake yesterday..


Chris..

7043783-T&DBroken.jpg (47 downloads)
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1167343
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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.






I broke a T&D intake yesterday..


Chris..


when did they make them in blue? looks like a mopar performance rocker from here.


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Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167344
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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.






I broke a T&D intake yesterday..


Chris..


when did they make them in blue? looks like a mopar performance rocker from here.





T&D's all used to be blue, but now they look like Jesels..

My Exhausts are like that..



Chris..

7043797-T&Donengine.jpg (49 downloads)
Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: dartman366] #1167345
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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.






I broke a T&D intake yesterday..


Chris..


when did they make them in blue? looks like a mopar performance rocker from here.




... I dont see where the bearing was

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I have Jesel rockers on my 540. I never (ever) worry about valvetrain failure anymore. You will love the peace of mind that setup will give you.






I broke a T&D intake yesterday..


Chris..


when did they make them in blue? looks like a mopar performance rocker from here.




... I dont see where the bearing was






Look closer.. Intake #5..


Chris..

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1167347
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They must be pretty old... all of mine are natural
color and I've have multiple sets for about 12 years

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I have a set of new 1.8 B1 T&D's that I got about 5 years ago.. They are blue..


Chris..

Re: aren't they pretty, winter upgrade. [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1167349
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Chris,
That looks like a Mopar rocker not a T&D. The T&D's have needle bearings on the shaft mount rockers and the paired shaft ride on a 5/8" shaft with bearings as well. If you are running over 600# of spring pressure you should have the paired shaft rockers.

Just to make sure you should call T&D and ask for Sheldon he can tell you exactly what they are and when they were built just so you know.

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