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anyone running cracked magnum heads? #1166009
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i know every magnum head i`ve pulled out of the junkyard was cracked between the valves, and have heard that they are all cracked, even when new. i have never seen any signs of antifreeze leaking in the cylinders. so is anyone running these cracked heads without problems?

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Of all teh ones you pulled from the junkyard, did any come from a wrecked truck? Not all of the trucks get hit while being parked on teh street, some of them get hit whilst driving.

IMHO, I'd bet that 75% of the running Magnum engines have at least 1 crack.

Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: 65rbdodge] #1166011
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!'v been running mine now for about (4)years now truck is a 95/with 118,000 mi truck run fine.It has a little of white smoke coming out of the exhaust engine lite stays on.I'm not up on the magnum engine i ask this ? b4 and people say that's common with this heads.I'm looking to replace the heads this year in hope's to get the truck up for the towing season.I think Hugh racing makes a re-pro. head for these engine if I'm not mistaken I'm sure someone will corrct me if i'm wrong, if u do a search on here u can find them........

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A 95 is OBD-1, and check engine usually means a a malfunction with an emissions item. OBD-2 can set a light for a cylinder misfire, but it would take 1 big crack to leak enough compression to cause a misfire.

Yes, Hughes makes an improved casting that also has press-in seats (OEM is induction hardening of the cast-in seat).

EngineQuest also has the same head, there are a few places on Ebay that sell the cheaper replacements (meaning, all stock valves, springs, etc). Look for 'Clearwater', IIRC.

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I currently have three 5.9L Magnum engine powered Dodge Ram 2wd Trucks (a 1999 1500 with 255k, a 2001 1500 with 160k, and a 2001 2500 with 175k). Likely all of them have cracked heads and all three trucks run fantastic.
No loss of power, no smoke, no coolant loss.
I also run a carbureted 5.9L Magnum engine in a Duster and it too has the original heads (engine was from 2000 Dodge Ram Van 2500 with 130k).


I do have a pair of Mopar Performance R/T iron heads, and Mopar Performance Magnum aluminum heads that will eventually make their way on to a couple of the above vehicles.I bought the MP heads years ago, so that may actually never happen.


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Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: daniel_depetro] #1166014
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mine had 1 crack, my machine shop pressure tested the head and it was fine. no loss of coolant, and no burning of coolant. id imagine 75% of magnum heads are cracked somewhere. if it hold pressure, use em.

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mine had 1 crack, my machine shop pressure tested the head and it was fine. no loss of coolant, and no burning of coolant. id imagine 75% of magnum heads are cracked somewhere. if it hold pressure, use em.


I'm u say that one head has a crack,then it was presure tested with no cracks so were was the crack?

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they crack between the valves

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They do crack between the valves but the crack seems to dead head into nothing and not leak. The cracks usually (almost always) show up on a magnaflux or zy-glo test but almost always pass a pressure test(actually never seen one fail). That shows they are there but doing no harm.


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Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: 1980volare] #1166018
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has a crack, between the valves. doesnt leak any coolant. doesnt effect performance in any way.

most heads that are cracked are easily visible with the naked eye after a good cleaning.

if there cracked, get them pressure tested, and if they check out run em.

Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: 1980volare] #1166019
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anyone running cracked magnum heads?

To the O/P, almost everyone running a truck with a 5.9 V8 has cracked heads that don't hurt anything (whether they know it or not). Not usually a fatal flaw. If there is no white smoke or coolant loss, there is no problem.



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Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: 65rbdodge] #1166020
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I've taken lots apart than ran perfectly with the cracks. I'd guess a tad more leakdown, but they seem to still run fine, "forever"...

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I'd guess a tad more leakdown,

Rick




Leaking where?


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At the cracked exh seat.

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At the cracked exh seat.

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That won't torch the valve or seat?

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The cracks tend to be very small, sometimes impossible to see when you know where one is located. Even if not filled in with carbon (unlikely) the effect on leak-down would be close to zero, much less than ring end gaps.


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The cracks tend to be very small, sometimes impossible to see when you know where one is located. Even if not filled in with carbon (unlikely) the effect on leak-down would be close to zero, much less than ring end gaps.




I agree somewhat with what your saying but over time the exhaust valve side of the crack will burn the valve face and show up as a mis-fire.
It's just a matter of time. And yes magnum heads are famous for this cracking problem, it is a thick part of the casting between the seats and it will in time cause problems with valve sealing.

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Seems like a few guy on have these heads on there car/trucks that runs very well anyone ever thought or tried any of this stuff http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...omString=search seems everyone has very little to none leakage wondering if this stuff works or is it just a bandage?

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I have never seen a cracked head cause a problem on a magnum motor and I have worked on tons of them.

As for the head gasket/crack aditive you should definately NOT use it. I have seen it plug heater cores and radiators.


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Re: anyone running cracked magnum heads? [Re: racerx] #1166028
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Seems like a few guy on have these heads on there car/trucks that runs very well anyone ever thought or tried any of this stuff http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accesso...omString=search seems everyone has very little to none leakage wondering if this stuff works or is it just a bandage?




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