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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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those fit 14 and 15 those in the pic appere to be post 70s (and probably even earlier) and will fit wheels from 68 to 84 i know this cause my van and my newport swap out caps perfectly what i wanna know is dose any one close to (or even better in) texas have a pair of widened wheels in 15s like those a lil further up  wanna do some trading for 14s with the 67 factory charger hubcaps ? or cash is good too!
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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02/07/12 04:48 PM
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Has anyone made a set of the older large diameter hubcaps (pre 67)fit on newer more common steel wheels? If so how? I thought of using some newer damaged dog dishes and epoxying them to the older hubcaps. Any ideas? 
That's exactly what I did.
PC7 epoxy and put the little 9" cap inside the 10" cap so I could run 8" Wheel Vintiqes steelies on the back of my '63.
Is the fit between the two hubcaps snug or do you need to do a lot of filling with the epoxy?
How do you mount and unmount the doubled up caps without breaking the epoxy bond?
Do you have any pics of the hubcap setup from the backside?
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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Simple, really.
Just smear some right in the middle of the cap and carefully line up the one that sits in it to where you have an equal amount of space around the outer edge.
That PC-7 is amazing stuff and bonds like crazy!
I've had them off and on a couple of wheels and no problems yet.
Here is a pic:
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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02/09/12 03:32 PM
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Simple, really.
Just smear some right in the middle of the cap and carefully line up the one that sits in it to where you have an equal amount of space around the outer edge.
That PC-7 is amazing stuff and bonds like crazy!
I've had them off and on a couple of wheels and no problems yet.
Here is a pic:
Thanks for the information and the picture. Not being the sharpest knife in the drawer though, I can't figure how you pry the caps off of the wheels without breaking the bond between the inner and outer cap?
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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You could weld on the tabs on the newer rim to make them bigger so that the older cap will catch.
That's what I'm going to try to do.
If you are looking for the older style rim in a 15" size, good luck. Took me a long time to find mine.
You can find them on 60-66 dodge half ton pickups, Mid 60's studabackers, and on some 66-67 C-bodys
And they won't work with disc brakes.
I sell these ones & they DO fit fine with factory discs. I fitted one of these wheels on a '68 GTX w/factory discs several years ago. No clearance issues.
http://www.classicchambered.com/rims/a15.jpg
i have a set of the mid 60's 15" big cap wheels and they won't fit the a-body disc brakes on my 65 coronet without a spacer.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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02/09/12 08:03 PM
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You could weld on the tabs on the newer rim to make them bigger so that the older cap will catch.
That's what I'm going to try to do.
If you are looking for the older style rim in a 15" size, good luck. Took me a long time to find mine.
You can find them on 60-66 dodge half ton pickups, Mid 60's studabackers, and on some 66-67 C-bodys
And they won't work with disc brakes.
I sell these ones & they DO fit fine with factory discs. I fitted one of these wheels on a '68 GTX w/factory discs several years ago. No clearance issues.
http://www.classicchambered.com/rims/a15.jpg
i have a set of the mid 60's 15" big cap wheels and they won't fit the a-body disc brakes on my 65 coronet without a spacer.
I need to try that on my '64 wagon as I want to put the dog dish caps back on it and I have the A-body style discs up front. I've got some early A100 15" wheels.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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02/10/12 10:01 PM
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Another approach that might work well is to use spring clips like allot of earlier cars used... They are available for VW's & would probably work well for this too, just a little effort figuring out where to position the clips..
http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/retaining-clip-rivet-set-hubcap-for-1-wheel_375591/
I looked at some pictures of VW wheels and these clips. The VW hubcaps actually fit into a depression in the wheel. They are located by this depression. The clips just keep the hubcap from flying out of the depression. I doubt that they would function on Mopar wheels as the cap just sits "on" not "in" the wheel.
Seems that the idea of welding short pieces of 1/2 X 1/2 angle to the wheels is the best idea (in my opinion) so far. That should make the mount 1" larger in diameter.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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i have a set of the 15x5 1/2" big cap wheels and looked around at having them widened. i thought it was cost prohibitive and didn't care for the way the work would be done. so, i played with some different ideas, including a spring steel clip, and the angle brackets was the easiest and most secure way to attach the cap. if you can do some welding the cost is very low.
Lewto184, I think that you are right on. I checked on having some wheels widened and came to the same conclusion. Just ordered a pair of 15X6 4"BS and a pair of 15X10 4 3/4" BS from Speciality Wheel. They have to be made of course, taking a couple of weeks, and I still have to adapt the early hubcaps as they are made with the later centers. I ordered them in raw steel so not only are they cheaper, but ready to weld on. After indicating them to check for runout and trueness, I'll do exactly what you did before I paint them.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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I need to try that on my '64 wagon as I want to put the dog dish caps back on it and I have the A-body style discs up front. I've got some early A100 15" wheels.
Just tried one of the A100 15" wheels I have on my '64 wagon and it does hit the caliper. The shape of the hoop is the problem. I guess I won't be putting the dog dish caps back on my car anytime soon.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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I received my new wheels from Specialty Wheels. Outstanding and they are American made. They only have the centers for the later 9" hubcaps available. Lewto184 had a great idea on welding some spacers. After taking a very close look at original wheels however, you'll find that the "nubs" are slightly indented at the bottom. Reasoning that the older hubcaps are exactly 1" larger than the newer ones, it made sense to add 1/2" to each nub but have them undercut in order to capture the hubcap. I cut some spacers, 5/8" long from a few old 1/2" bolts and tacked them to one wheel. Perfect. The hubcap fit like factory. Did all four wheels and finish welded them. The roundness of the 1/2" stock holds the cap perfectly tight to the wheel. Attached is a picture after welding and priming.
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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02/28/12 02:38 PM
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Very Cool!! Those 10's or 12's?
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Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels????
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I received my new wheels from Specialty Wheels. Outstanding and they are American made. They only have the centers for the later 9" hubcaps available. Lewto184 had a great idea on welding some spacers. After taking a very close look at original wheels however, you'll find that the "nubs" are slightly indented at the bottom. Reasoning that the older hubcaps are exactly 1" larger than the newer ones, it made sense to add 1/2" to each nub but have them undercut in order to capture the hubcap. I cut some spacers, 5/8" long from a few old 1/2" bolts and tacked them to one wheel. Perfect. The hubcap fit like factory. Did all four wheels and finish welded them. The roundness of the 1/2" stock holds the cap perfectly tight to the wheel. Attached is a picture after welding and priming.
looking good! i'm going to try and find me a set of 15x6.5's and do a set for my 65 coronet.
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