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67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? #1164918 01/25/12 11:31 PM 01/25/12 11:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada gregsrt OP top fuel
gregsrt OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada	Has anyone made a set of the older large diameter hubcaps (pre 67)fit on newer more common steel wheels? If so how? I thought of using some newer damaged dog dishes and epoxying them to the older hubcaps. Any ideas? 7037360-66coronet440hemi58.jpg (1344 downloads) An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry. Thomas Jefferson

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: gregsrt] #1164919 01/25/12 11:34 PM 01/25/12 11:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Why not just buy some old wheels? They aren't that rare or expensive unless you buy 5.5 Hemi wheels.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: gregsrt] #1164920 01/25/12 11:47 PM 01/25/12 11:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 95 Ohio R ralphie361 member
ralphie361 member R Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 95 Ohio	I had thought of this before and never tried it, but maybe weld some bar stock to the wheel center to make the hubcap register bigger? I dont know if I am describing it correctly but I can see it in my head Just one inch long sections right where the hubcap snaps on.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1164921 01/25/12 11:50 PM 01/25/12 11:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada gregsrt OP top fuel
gregsrt OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada	They are a little harder to find up here and I won't pay shipping(and duty) to get some here. I'm just throwing some ideas around. I'll probably just buy some wheels from Rocket racing. An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry. Thomas Jefferson

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: gregsrt] #1164922 01/26/12 12:08 AM 01/26/12 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I have a set of vintage used 65/66 KH wheels sitting here that will accept the large caps, I don't own them but the guy would sell them for $300.00 for all 4. If interested let me know. BTW, they are not Hemi wheels but do measure 14 x 5.5 and look very similar to them. If you are not in a hurry I can have one of my Canadian friends haul them up (likely for free) to either Kelowna BC or Edmonton Alberta.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: gregsrt] #1164923 01/26/12 12:31 AM 01/26/12 12:31 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Has anyone made a set of the older large diameter hubcaps (pre 67)fit on newer more common steel wheels? If so how? I thought of using some newer damaged dog dishes and epoxying them to the older hubcaps. Any ideas? That's exactly what I did. PC7 epoxy and put the little 9" cap inside the 10" cap so I could run 8" Wheel Vintiqes steelies on the back of my '63.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? #1164924 01/26/12 01:19 AM 01/26/12 01:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada gregsrt OP top fuel
gregsrt OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,431 SK,Canada	Quote: Quote: Has anyone made a set of the older large diameter hubcaps (pre 67)fit on newer more common steel wheels? If so how? I thought of using some newer damaged dog dishes and epoxying them to the older hubcaps. Any ideas? That's exactly what I did. PC7 epoxy and put the little 9" cap inside the 10" cap so I could run 8" Wheel Vintiqes steelies on the back of my '63. Interesting, so it does work. hmm now to decide if I want dog dishes or these wheels from Rocket. Thanks for the offer Scott, I would consider it but I need 15" because I have the tires and I'm doing the front disc conversion and using the 11.75 inchers. 7037530-product_photo-large_image-81.jpg (322 downloads) An association of men who will not quarrel with one another is a thing which has never yet existed, from the greatest confederacy of nations down to a town meeting or a vestry. Thomas Jefferson

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: gregsrt] #1164925 01/26/12 01:37 AM 01/26/12 01:37 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Another approach that might work well is to use spring clips like allot of earlier cars used... They are available for VW's & would probably work well for this too, just a little effort figuring out where to position the clips.. http://www.mamotorworkstv.com/vw/product/retaining-clip-rivet-set-hubcap-for-1-wheel_375591/ "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1164926 01/26/12 09:13 AM 01/26/12 09:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,883 Northern OH R rapom top fuel
rapom top fuel R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,883 Northern OH	You could weld on the tabs on the newer rim to make them bigger so that the older cap will catch. That's what I'm going to try to do. If you are looking for the older style rim in a 15" size, good luck. Took me a long time to find mine. You can find them on 60-66 dodge half ton pickups, Mid 60's studabackers, and on some 66-67 C-bodys And they won't work with disc brakes.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: rapom] #1164927 01/26/12 10:33 AM 01/26/12 10:33 AM
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lewtot184 master L Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,916 usa	this is what i came up with some years back. 7037815-100_0012.jpg (624 downloads)

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: lewtot184] #1164928 01/26/12 11:59 AM 01/26/12 11:59 AM
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rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	I am watching this post with great interest because I am in the same boat. The welding of the tabs looks like a great idea. I assume that it could be done to wheel vintique wheels which can be purchased in different widths and backspacing. One of the advantages to the early dog dish caps (other than being period correct) is that they should clear the long rear wheel studs that I have.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: rapom] #1164929 01/26/12 12:37 PM 01/26/12 12:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: You could weld on the tabs on the newer rim to make them bigger so that the older cap will catch. That's what I'm going to try to do. If you are looking for the older style rim in a 15" size, good luck. Took me a long time to find mine. You can find them on 60-66 dodge half ton pickups, Mid 60's studabackers, and on some 66-67 C-bodys And they won't work with disc brakes. The spring clips come with rivets.. Just drill a few small holes & peen the rivets in place... 7037967-wolthuis.aspx.jpeg (764 downloads) "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1164930 01/26/12 01:07 PM 01/26/12 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	15X8 RamCharger rear,15X7 steel front,62 Plymouth 10" cap.Drilled and tapped three holes,oval head machine screws,cap snaps right on,perfectly centered. 7038006-Picture132.jpg (1412 downloads)

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1164931 01/26/12 01:08 PM 01/26/12 01:08 PM
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62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Installed. 7038010-Picture055.jpg (621 downloads)

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1164932 01/26/12 01:36 PM 01/26/12 01:36 PM
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rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	Quote: 15X8 RamCharger rear,15X7 steel front,62 Plymouth 10" cap.Drilled and tapped three holes,oval head machine screws,cap snaps right on,perfectly centered. This idea as well as the VW clip idea are very interesting and seem so simple that even a "caveman" like me could do it. What size machine screws did you use, and do you recall how you figured the exact drilling/tapping point?

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: rbstroker] #1164933 01/26/12 03:44 PM 01/26/12 03:44 PM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	That wagon is the cats a$$ I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: rbstroker] #1164934 01/27/12 04:29 PM 01/27/12 04:29 PM
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rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	Quote: I am watching this post with great interest because I am in the same boat. The welding of the tabs looks like a great idea. I assume that it could be done to wheel vintique wheels which can be purchased in different widths and backspacing. One of the advantages to the early dog dish caps (other than being period correct) is that they should clear the long rear wheel studs that I have. Looks like I will have to stay with my prostars, I contacted Summit regarding the steelies available through Wheel Vintiques. I need 15X10 4 1/2"BS for the rear. They only offer 15X10 with a minimum of 5 1/2" backspace.

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: rbstroker] #1164935 02/02/12 09:53 AM 02/02/12 09:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,014 Midwestern Indiana duster2 super stock
duster2 super stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,014 Midwestern Indiana	There was a guy in the Chicago area that made some adapters out of a thick plastic material. I think they were done on a CNC machine , good bit of waste. They didn't work well on the 3 tab wheels , but did work on the 4 tab later wheels. I didn't get much interest from the Mopar people in them and they were kinda costly. I think I may still have the guys number , PM me and I will check. Frank

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: duster2] #1164936 02/03/12 01:25 AM 02/03/12 01:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,050 GA roadrunninMark master
roadrunninMark master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,050 GA	talking about dog dish, do the "plymouth motor division" dog dishes fit both the 14" and 15" steelies or were there different sizes? These are the caps I am referring to: 7051119-get-attachment.jpg (440 downloads)

Re: 67 Dog Dish Hubcaps on Newer Steel Wheels???? [Re: duster2] #1164937 02/03/12 01:37 AM 02/03/12 01:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This is what 67 Plymouth B-body dog dish caps looked like (Belvedere/GTX) 7051129-67caps.jpg (667 downloads)

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