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What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? #1162988 01/22/12 08:57 PM 01/22/12 08:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC Meangreen68 OP enthusiast
Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	I was looking through my 440 engine rebuild invoice today, and I found this listed as a charged service. Thanks, John

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162989 01/22/12 08:59 PM 01/22/12 08:59 PM
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daniel_depetro pro stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,445 Sterling Heights, Michigan 483...	Drilled for 1/2" oil pick up. 1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10) 1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23) 1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: daniel_depetro] #1162990 01/22/12 09:14 PM 01/22/12 09:14 PM
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Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	Thanks Daniel. This threw me a little. I started a topic yesterday about what oil pan, pickup, and pump to use. I mentioned that Mike Chenoweth shipped me a Milodon 3/8" pickup and a Clevite HV oil pump with the rebuild. Funny thing, the invoice lists the oil pump, but I wasn't charged for the pick-up? I'll be dang. I'm going to check the block right now. If it is 1/2", keep a look-out for a 3/8" Milodon 18320 pick-up in the engine "for sale" section!

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162991 01/22/12 09:16 PM 01/22/12 09:16 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 44,019 Bend,OR USA	Is the block machined for the 1/2 NPT size? Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162992 01/22/12 09:16 PM 01/22/12 09:16 PM
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64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Do you have the block close by? Tree'd by Cab... Mike may have opened the main passages but left the pick up boss @ 3/8" NPT. I had him open mine up to 1/2" NPT. Then the Milodon pick up I got through Mancini had 1/2" rod threads (no tapering). I had to order in die cause no one local stocked it. It came in handy when it was time to "clock" the pick up tube. Last edited by 64Post; 01/22/12 09:22 PM.

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: 64Post] #1162993 01/22/12 11:01 PM 01/22/12 11:01 PM
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Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	The engine has been in the crate for 8 years! I took a little while to snap a photograph. It appears to be 3/8" inlet. I'm not knowledgeable of what Hemi oiling mods entail. ...but it's time to get this thing together. 7032371-Oil2.jpg (145 downloads)

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162994 01/22/12 11:06 PM 01/22/12 11:06 PM
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Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	Here's one more close up. If that's a 3/8" pipe thread, the bore looks like a 1/2". 7032377-Oil3.jpg (93 downloads)

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162995 01/22/12 11:18 PM 01/22/12 11:18 PM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,167 Mass	The inside diameter of a 1/2" NPT bore is approx .725.....(that's almost 3/4" for the layperson) the inside diameter of a 3/8" NPT bore is approx .560 about 9/16"

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1162996 01/23/12 12:17 AM 01/23/12 12:17 AM
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Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	Thanks Dayclona, It is definitely not machined for a 1/2" pick-up. I do notice, when looking through the pump-side bores, the turns look like they've been radiused. Fresh burr markings. I'll know more when the engine is taken out of the plastic wrapping and placed up on a stand. It looks like Mike clearanced for the 3.9" offset-ground crank/rods on the edge next to the pick-up bore. Maybe the 1/2" pick-up wouldn't have worked/fit? Thanks

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1162997 01/23/12 01:45 AM 01/23/12 01:45 AM
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64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Quote: Thanks Dayclona, It is definitely not machined for a 1/2" pick-up. I do notice, when looking through the pump-side bores, the turns look like they've been radiused. Fresh burr markings. I'll know more when the engine is taken out of the plastic wrapping and placed up on a stand. It looks like Mike clearanced for the 3.9" offset-ground crank/rods on the edge next to the pick-up bore. Maybe the 1/2" pick-up wouldn't have worked/fit? Thanks So Mike likely opened the feed holes to the mains only. Like I said, I had him open my pick up boss to 1/2" NPT on my low deck. I used chevy rods and a 3.9 crank in my build as well and didn't need the boss clearanced. Be very careful when installing and clocking the pick up tube. Trying get that last 90 degrees could crack the boss.

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: 64Post] #1162998 01/23/12 10:13 AM 01/23/12 10:13 AM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	they charged you for "machined for hemi oiling system" but the block was not drilled/tapped for the Hemi 1/2" pickup???. What DID they charge you for? They may have done other block oil passage mods (recommended) but the 1/2" pickup is part of the procedure. We're missing some info here live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: RapidRobert] #1162999 01/23/12 11:15 AM 01/23/12 11:15 AM
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Meangreen68 OP enthusiast Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 323 Raleigh, NC	Hey RR, I'll have the block out of the plastic and on a stand by the end of the week. I'll take more pictures then. I was charged $75 for the service. If the oil passages were enlarged and the turns radiused, would that be of benefit without the enlarging of the pick-up bore?

Re: What does "Machine for Hemi Oiling System" mean? [Re: Meangreen68] #1163000 01/23/12 04:27 PM 01/23/12 04:27 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: If the oil passages were enlarged and the turns radiused, would that be of benefit without the enlarging of the pick-up bore? Yes it would live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

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