Re: 440 Factory HP/Torque Numbers Accurate?
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01/20/12 01:50 PM
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the 383 was very close to the true 335hp rating, but i think the 375 for the 440 was a bit high.
If true it sure didnt transfer to the ground very well... ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif) If I had 10 383 motors sitting in a pile I would trade every one for ONE 440..
I kinda chuckle when the 383 vs. 440 comparison is made; I mean for the most part a 383 is a small 440 or a 440 is a big 383; they really are basically the same motor! Same design, same cams, same heads, same manifolds, etc. etc. etc. There is a reason that one is a "B" series and the other is a "Raised B series".
going by the factory ratings, the 383 makes .875 hp/cu in and the 440 makes .85 hp/cu in.......makes sense to me seeing as how the 906's limited flow undoubtably works better with a 383's smaller displacement (same with the exh. manifolds), but it isn't a huge difference IMO. and as far as the bore/stroke relationship; that is largely an urban myth.
The 383 has a small advantage due to the head flow issue I mentioned and that accounts for the slight diffence in ratings per cu in.....could the ratings be off? sure.....but not alot IMO.
If you were to pull 10 383's and 10 440's from survivor cars and put them on two different dyno's, you'd get 40 different numbers! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh2.gif)
![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif) Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
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Re: 440 Factory HP/Torque Numbers Accurate?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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01/20/12 08:25 PM
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The 67 blocks had a lot more deck height so the compression was about the same as 68 and up HP motors with the 906 heads.
No they didn't. The 67 440's had a lower compression height piston, that is how they had the same CR as the 68-71's.
I knew it was something like that needed to make up for the small combustion chambers. Weren't they flat tops pistons? I had a 67 block where the pistons were .100+ in the hole! I just assumed they had more deck height rather than making it up with the piston. Did they just have pistons with a higher wrist pin or were the pistons dished out?
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Re: 440 Factory HP/Torque Numbers Accurate?
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01/20/12 08:48 PM
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67 piston CH is about 2.000". Typically .080" or so in the hole. Perfectly flat.
Last edited by BSB67; 01/20/12 08:49 PM.
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