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Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: Moparmal] #1143694 05/27/12 10:14 PM 05/27/12 10:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: Is this right? Are the Hemi boys really going that badly in Pure Stock? What gives? (And Merry XMAS all ) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStockDrags/videos So no one is talking about the results from Lebanon NY this weekend? Really!?!?? This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: fast68plymouth] #1143695 05/27/12 11:57 PM 05/27/12 11:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: i said i wasnt going to comment on what should or shouldnt be allowed......but i guess i cant keep all of it in. the PSMCD race in Stanton attracts a very broad range of cars from the glory years of American Muscle. as a pure hi performance car "fan", i cant think of any American car maker that didnt offer up something i liked. i find it hard to imagine there would be a racing series that highlights these fantastic machines.......and instead of finding some way of trying to make sure all of the best pieces each brand had to offer had a place to play.....the rules are constructed in a way that excludes some of the best-of-the-best. personaly, i would LOVE to see some correctly restored(as in....before any mods were done by their owners) Hemi race cars, T-Bolts, lite weight GM iron, and all the rest.....right there in the staging lanes with all those shiney Muscle cars. even if they had their own class(F/R..."Factory Race"), just get them to the event. i would imagine that most of the people attending the PSMCD events would consider themselves "car guys". that being said, i cant imagine too many people being upset at watching those things roaring down the 1/4 mile. but hey......thats just how i see it. Boy do I agree with this. It would be so cool to see the factory type race cars basically the way they came do some racing with the FAST class but in a class of their own as Dwayne suggested. I know I love the factory built race cars as it just shows how far the manufactors would go to win on Sunday and sell on Monday. They could maybe even have 2 classes for the factory hot rods........one for the ones that anyone could buy and legaly drive on the street and the other class for the ones only the racers or someone connected got that could not be street driven. It would really be an awesome class to me. But just having the FAST and Pure Stock classes and racing is very cool indeed. I really enjoy watching and reading about these cars. Reminds me of 1970 when Pro Stock first came about as they were very clse to stock bodies and chassis cars. I have pics of some of the first Pro Stock cars with just that little half round looking rollbar behind just the drivers seat. Yes it would be exciting ! Ron Last edited by 383man; 05/27/12 11:59 PM.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: bwdst6] #1143696 05/28/12 06:35 PM 05/28/12 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct A AdamR master
AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Quote: Quote: Is this right? Are the Hemi boys really going that badly in Pure Stock? What gives? (And Merry XMAS all ) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStockDrags/videos So no one is talking about the results from Lebanon NY this weekend? Really!?!?? I didnt get to go this year. What were the results ?

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: AdamR] #1143697 05/29/12 09:28 AM 05/29/12 09:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,319 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,319 A gulag near you.	Quote: Quote: Quote: Is this right? Are the Hemi boys really going that badly in Pure Stock? What gives? (And Merry XMAS all ) http://www.youtube.com/user/PureStockDrags/videos So no one is talking about the results from Lebanon NY this weekend? Really!?!?? I didnt get to go this year. What were the results ? X2 ...

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: JohnRR] #1143698 05/29/12 10:05 AM 05/29/12 10:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW drmopar master
drmopar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,363 DTW	Dont know the results, this is from Mr. Dudek... Here`s a quick break down of the qualifying order, keep in mind these guy`s were running in 3000+ foot of air.. 10.54 Scott (Mahoney`s Firebird) 10.72 Ken V (Camaro 427) 11.12 Ryan (ZL1 F.A.S.T.) 11.25 Don G (Chevelle 396) 11.54 Mahoney (stock Hemi RR) 11.55 Brian (340 Duster) 11.57 Jim (383 Dart 4-speed) 11.73 Jim (stock ZL1 Camaro) 11.88 Scotty (RR A12) 12.02 Ed Cook (Stock RR A12) 12.30 Gavin (340 Dart) 12.66 Chuck (Firebird) 13.00 Charles (396 Chevelle) 13.16 Philip ( 73 Buick) 13.26 Gene (AAR Cuda) 13.65 Rick (Yenko Camaro) 13.81 Chris (GT-37) 13.83 Brian (340 Duster) -------------------- RM27H9G 4 speed F8/tan guts RS27L9G auto B5/black guts WM23H9G auto F5/green guts 2021 Challenger 392 Indigo/black guts 2019 Charger Daytona R/T F8 on black 2018 Ram Sport Hemi 4x4

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: drmopar] #1143699 05/29/12 10:14 AM 05/29/12 10:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	with all the brand bantering and stuff that goes on what gearhead carguy wouldn't like to have any one of those in his garage?

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: drmopar] #1143700 05/29/12 10:23 AM 05/29/12 10:23 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: 11.54 Mahoney (stock Hemi RR) Here is what I�m hearing from the grapevine as I wasn�t there in person. Mahoney ran 11.20�s with his pure stock RR which as I understand significantly breaks the pure stock record held by the L88�s? He was weighed and came in at 3800 and some change (legal), tore down and checked for compression, displacement, spring pressure, etc. (all legal). But then was told much later on that he was disqualified simply because he had a roll bar in the car!!! Anyone that can add or correct any information to this please do! This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: bwdst6] #1143701 05/29/12 01:39 PM 05/29/12 01:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,752 detroit area M moderncylinder top fuel
moderncylinder top fuel M Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,752 detroit area	i was told he ran 11.54 on a set of "cheater" tires that were shaved bald, when he put on the correct stock tires he ran 11.90 went 122mph with an auto in it

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: moderncylinder] #1143702 05/29/12 01:54 PM 05/29/12 01:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 732 NY X XXHEMI super stock
XXHEMI super stock X Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 732 NY	The grapevine was not to accurate at all. No 11.20" a few 80"s and the 54 as posted @ 122mph. This was not a Pure Stock race so I don't beleive the roll bar to be an issue?? It was a bolt in so Iam sure if told to remove it he will. Car looks outstanding great job Rick and Scott. Ed Cook

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: XXHEMI] #1143703 05/29/12 02:17 PM 05/29/12 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,276 Canada WO23Coronet master
WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,276 Canada	How does that Firebird run so damn quick? Not being a Mopar cry baby or implying anything but c'mon, those are some sick times, that's fairly competitive F.A.S.T. territory. What's the story on this beast? Last edited by WO23Coronet; 05/29/12 02:30 PM.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: XXHEMI] #1143704 05/29/12 02:34 PM 05/29/12 02:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: The grapevine was not to accurate at all. No 11.20" a few 80"s and the 54 as posted @ 122mph. This was not a Pure Stock race so I don't beleive the roll bar to be an issue?? It was a bolt in so Iam sure if told to remove it he will. Car looks outstanding great job Rick and Scott. Oh, ok thanks for the info! In any event isn't the current pure stock record an 11.54 from an L88? This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: WO23Coronet] #1143705 05/29/12 03:06 PM 05/29/12 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	Quote: How does that Firebird run so damn quick? Not being a Mopar cry baby or implying anything but c'mon, those are some sick times, that's fairly competitive F.A.S.T. territory. What's the story on this beast? Hard work, lots of R and D and a few bucks

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: scatpacktom] #1143706 05/29/12 07:58 PM 05/29/12 07:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek top fuel
DaveDudek top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	Just to confirm, Rick's 1968 Hemi Road Runner posted the fastest ET & MPH ever by a stock Mopar and did it in 90 degree heat. As these "stock" tires start to wear in they start to hook better and better.... We paired Rick's car with three other cars for the factory stock final, Rick's car had the feild covered by soo much we asked him to take off his seasoned tires and put a new set on (which is stock racing suicide) to give the other guy's a chance. He did and spun half way down the track. He certainly could have kept the good tires on and cleaned house. Hats off to Rick for being a good sport. Something tells me this was a one time only deal, we are very lucky to have him in our camp. At the end of the day Rick's the type of man who will not stop until he starts pulling wins from the corvettes, give this some time and watch it play out. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: scatpacktom] #1143707 05/29/12 09:34 PM 05/29/12 09:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP! DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack!
DARTH V8Я Oh No!! I just had a moron attack! Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,154 Its a TRAP!	Quote: Quote: How does that Firebird run so damn quick? Not being a Mopar cry baby or implying anything but c'mon, those are some sick times, that's fairly competitive F.A.S.T. territory. What's the story on this beast? Hard work, lots of R and D and a few bucks Thats exactly it, and thats why the GM products do so well. No cheating, no shinanigans, no rule advantage. When it takes more than a sweet mullet to prove you rule at the trailer park..

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: DARTH V8Я] #1143708 05/29/12 09:37 PM 05/29/12 09:37 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA H HPMike master
HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: How does that Firebird run so damn quick? Not being a Mopar cry baby or implying anything but c'mon, those are some sick times, that's fairly competitive F.A.S.T. territory. What's the story on this beast? Hard work, lots of R and D and a few bucks Thats exactly it, and thats why the GM products do so well. No cheating, no shinanigans, no rule advantage. Unless I am missing the sarcasm MB

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: HPMike] #1143709 05/29/12 09:48 PM 05/29/12 09:48 PM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	We are talking about a Ram Air 2 Firebird aren't we?

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: DARTH V8Я] #1143710 05/29/12 10:04 PM 05/29/12 10:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,029 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,029 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: Quote: Quote: How does that Firebird run so damn quick? Not being a Mopar cry baby or implying anything but c'mon, those are some sick times, that's fairly competitive F.A.S.T. territory. What's the story on this beast? Hard work, lots of R and D and a few bucks Thats exactly it, and thats why the GM products do so well. No cheating, no shinanigans, no rule advantage. Everyone knows (or at least should) that money, R & D, dedecation and laps are the keys to running at the top of any class. As for cheating.....I have no idea, very difficult to prove in most cases, but......unless I've mis-read the previous posts, some GM cars DO benefit from rules advantages, as well as the exclusion of certain non-GM combinations that the majority believes should be legal.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: scatpacktom] #1143711 05/30/12 05:51 AM 05/30/12 05:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,319 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,319 A gulag near you.	Quote: We are talking about a Ram Air 2 Firebird aren't we? Quote: Just to confirm, Rick's 1968 Hemi Road Runner posted the fastest ET & MPH ever by a stock Mopar and did it in 90 degree heat .

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: JohnRR] #1143712 05/30/12 09:31 AM 05/30/12 09:31 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,029 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,029 Trumbull,CT.	This new Roadrunner sounds like serious business. Imagine the results when it's dialed.......tires, converter, etc... Probably making upwards of 685 RWHP, I'll bet. Looks like the the "BIG" guy from Robesonia Pa. built yet another killer HEMI and this one ain't even for SS/AH. Just think what can happen if the "BIG" guy from Pa. gets his hands on a F.A.S.T. HEMI combination.

Re: Pure Stock - Oh the humiliation......... [Re: JohnRR] #1143713 05/30/12 12:22 PM 05/30/12 12:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	Quote: Quote: We are talking about a Ram Air 2 Firebird aren't we? Quote: Just to confirm, Rick's 1968 Hemi Road Runner posted the fastest ET & MPH ever by a stock Mopar and did it in 90 degree heat . I know I�m talking about the Road Runner. Both are owned by the same guy but the Firebird is in F.A.S.T. trim and the heavy hitters in that class are running high 9�s! Although 10.50�s in 90� weather is still impressive. The RR is in Pure Stock trim and that was just about setting records in those conditions. Last edited by bwdst6; 05/30/12 12:24 PM. This post is available in double vision where drunk.

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