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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: fishy340] #1138760
12/18/11 10:49 PM
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i was there that day,donho in the stang said he never in his life saw a front tire 1/2 way down the track in his face before..lol




I was there also, what a bad ass pass. Should have seen it on woodhaven blvd the night before..lol


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1138761
12/18/11 10:52 PM
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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138762
12/18/11 10:53 PM
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Its Winter time and things are a little slow on Moparts so I would like to start a post about nitrous. Do posts posts about 9, 10, and 11 second cars impress you. I am old school and believe anyone should be able to achieve these times with NA combo's. Anybody can go out and spend 400.00 and bolt on a SYSTEM, open a valve, and push a button. What is the skill involved with this. Build a 11 second engine, add a bottle and brag about how fast your car is. I think we should have two fastest car lists on Moparts. One for NA and one for making HP the easy way. Old school racer here that takes pride in doing it the hard way. Heck even 8 second nitrous cars do nothing for me.





I didnt read the whole thread (dont plan on it)

Heres my take since there WILL be nitrous on my car. If you dont like it theres a few options...
A. Dont look if you dont like it.
B. You are more then welcome to pay to build me some wild 9sec N/A motor.

Im a broke ass 20 year old that wants to go fast, so dont judge me for how I get to where I wanna go, thanks.

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 69B3GT] #1138763
12/18/11 11:00 PM
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I wish I could run in the 8.50 class on a 10.5 tire

just dont have that kind of money and nowhow to do it, running NOS setup


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1138764
12/18/11 11:05 PM
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Sorry I like small tire racing and have seen how fast you can go on lets say a 28-10.5-15. So when a car with 32-16.5-15 rolls up and runs a 9 or 10 sec pass I think what a waste . My car has run 9.55 at 143 na. This is with a 1.43 60 ft so there's some left on the table. I run at 3250lbs on caltracs and 295 drag radials through mufflers just like I drive it on the street, no changes to car to go drag racing. So sorry if I see a big tire car go the same as my car I am not impressed.




i have seen many big tire cars bolt on a set of drag radials and make there best pass ever. some couldnt run out the 1/4 though.

just because you prefer (as do I) the look of a small tire car doesnt really give you right to insult guys that bought maybe all they could afford or just like the pro street look


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: superbee500] #1138765
12/18/11 11:05 PM
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What's impressive is we can drive our 7-8 second junk down to the local dinner/drive-in legally if we so choose...Also the stands are full and vehicles are lined up past the finish line watching at our heads-up races...The average fan doesn't understand handicap racing but does the first to the finish line race...Just look in the stands at your next bracket race and all you see are other racers and there pit helpers whether its a race like Josh puts on or a local one..."Small tire street legal heads-up racing so easy even a cave man can do it"..............

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: sixpackgut] #1138766
12/18/11 11:10 PM
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Sorry I like small tire racing and have seen how fast you can go on lets say a 28-10.5-15. So when a car with 32-16.5-15 rolls up and runs a 9 or 10 sec pass I think what a waste . My car has run 9.55 at 143 na. This is with a 1.43 60 ft so there's some left on the table. I run at 3250lbs on caltracs and 295 drag radials through mufflers just like I drive it on the street, no changes to car to go drag racing. So sorry if I see a big tire car go the same as my car I am not impressed.




i have seen many big tire cars bolt on a set of drag radials and make there best pass ever. some couldnt run out the 1/4 though.

just because you prefer (as do I) the look of a small tire car doesnt really give you right to insult guys that bought maybe all they could afford or just like the pro street look




I can't voice my opion on the internet now? I might offend someone. I guess the starter of this thread should of thought of that before he posted this thread.


Not kidding they go faster on radials. Its a faster tire that is why it was invented.RTTTFMF'S

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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: Gary Robbins] #1138767
12/18/11 11:11 PM
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For me, it's just something else to go wrong. I'm not into gizmos.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138768
12/18/11 11:18 PM
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Some nos cars simply kick ass and that`s guys on here also. I can barely tune my n/a heap so I`d be in a world of s#$t playing w/nos and do pride myself on my cars performance although it falls shy to even some small blocks. I would love to build a turbo motor someday but w/out all of the gizmos, timers etc, I`d be lost..........


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: Thumperdart] #1138769
12/18/11 11:34 PM
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Its not the nitrous that is meant to impress....

If the car is fast, no matter how it got there it is impressive.....

Turbo cars are fast, and the impress people......but no one says "well they have a turbo so since they have a turbo im not impressed) Or a procharged car, or a car with a screw blower..... they are all fast and its all impressive.....

now if a guy shows up with a 88 monte carlo and has 4 kits and the car goes 10.90s....thats not impressive, but thats also not the nitrous at fault....its probably the malt liquor and 24" wheels that slowed him down

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: NTOLERANCE] #1138770
12/18/11 11:39 PM
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I will use N2O Monster as an example.His impressed me because of the innocent look of the car and the see him run the 8.5 index or go to Kentucky and get lucky,but is it luck or his tuning ability.Yes many guys can install a system or 3,but can they ne consistant??Can I dial my blower car in and be consistant,same for a turbo car.Sub 9 sec passes to 8 sec passes do in fact amuse me.I also like to see a hangin' the hoops.A car that just goes from a to b and runs 8.0 does not gat much attention from me.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: joshking440] #1138771
12/18/11 11:41 PM
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now if a guy shows up with a 88 monte carlo and has 4 kits and the car goes 10.90s....thats not impressive, but thats also not the nitrous at fault....its probably the malt liquor and 24" wheels that slowed him down




Where do I send my dry cleaning bill? Just spit my beer all over!! LOL


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1138772
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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: fasthawk6] #1138773
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It all depends on what size motor,weight of car, small tire big tire makes a car impressive to me. A gutted big block 9 second car on 14x32s does not cut it for me. I ussally pass trailer cars on the way home that are slower than mine while i got the radio on.Hers a little vid of some 8.5 racing no bars and all cars way more than 3150.
If this is so easy why dont some of you guys get in the mix. And mll but one of this cars are small blocks.Not to knock any ones car here but there are only a fhandfull on here that are impressive to me.
http://youtu.be/IYOvB29NFRo


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: earthmover] #1138774
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As far as the argument about only running DRAG RADIALS. You guys wouldn't be able hook these cars without the chassis improvements made over the years and the way these STREET TIRES have improved over the years. Make a pass with a slick and then the equivalent sized drag radial and the car goes faster with the street tires. Don't believe it do some research. Now as far as tuning a nitrous powered car. Buy a book, get on the computer, call a nitrous rep, ( monty or many others ), change a pill, retard the timing, programmable timings, and push a button. Heck now you can just hook it up to the gas peddle.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1138775
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Add me to the list of "not impressed". Much more impressed by a car that is fast and N/A. It takes very little skill to add 100 hp of N2O but adding another 100 hp N/A takes a little skill. 200 HP of N02 take a little more skill, while 200 HP takes a good amount of skill. I am impressed with most any kind of power, turbo, super charged, bored, stroked... but nitrous does very little for me. Good ole N/A running 8s or Nitrous running 8s and I will be hands down more impressed with the N/A car.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1138776
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Sorry I like small tire racing and have seen how fast you can go on lets say a 28-10.5-15. So when a car with 32-16.5-15 rolls up and runs a 9 or 10 sec pass I think what a waste . My car has run 9.55 at 143 na. This is with a 1.43 60 ft so there's some left on the table. I run at 3250lbs on caltracs and 295 drag radials through mufflers just like I drive it on the street, no changes to car to go drag racing. So sorry if I see a big tire car go the same as my car I am not impressed.




I'd start working on your 60ft's....I left harder in a 10.60 Duster with a .509 cammed stock block that could run on kerosene

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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138777
12/19/11 01:19 AM
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As far as the argument about only running DRAG RADIALS. You guys wouldn't be able hook these cars without the chassis improvements made over the years and the way these STREET TIRES have improved over the years. Make a pass with a slick and then the equivalent sized drag radial and the car goes faster with the street tires. Don't believe it do some research. Now as far as tuning a nitrous powered car. Buy a book, get on the computer, call a nitrous rep, ( monty or many others ), change a pill, retard the timing, programmable timings, and push a button. Heck now you can just hook it up to the gas peddle.





Dude you have NO clue.Please put the key board down and go back to the MP catalog.I hear they got some new 509 cams in stock!!!!

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: 8secDart] #1138778
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nitrous just made sense to me. i wanted to go high 8's and still drive whenever and whearever i want. 493, honest 11 to 1 (pump gas) solid flat tappet ran 9.80 @3400 lbs on motor. now with a 28 n jet ive been 9.11 @147 @ 3400lbs all over the track, this is an easy 8.80 car. not to mention i dropped to a 4.10 and a tight convertor (more streetable). to do this would have been a completely new motor, one you would'nt want to drive on the street. if you think their was a better option i'd like to here it!

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: John Burdine] #1138779
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i'm really surprised at all the nitrous haters here. we build engines for class racers, N/A bracket combo's and all kinds of "power adder" combo's. frankly, all of them are impressive in my book when they go out and run the numbers they were designed to run. obviously all of the above mentioned get built specific to specs to be reliable, but the differences in each type can be startling to the uninformed.
i suppose this thread just illustrates the need for more than vanilla. carry on.


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