Re: Rust repair and body shops
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09/03/08 06:13 PM
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Well, my car is a pretty easy project. I'm not a body guy, so it's possible I'm over-simplifying, but the car really doesn't have that much rust. Lower quarters, a few little perforations here and there, that's it. Also, and this is key, I am OFFERING to buy replacement panels for everything, rather than have them fabricate anything from scratch. They have ample opportunity to reduce their time while increasing my outlay...they're just very...slow.
Amazingly, and I'm afraid this is a really bad sign, the receptionist who stepped up to help me last week? I called Tuesday to ask her if they had ordered the various panels, and I found out she was "no longer employed there". The person I talked to I KNOW has been there for a long time, so I guess that's better than if it were a new stranger, but still, kind of weird.
We shall see how this goes over the next week or two, and beyond that, I may have to pull out and find someone else. Darn, we were SO close...
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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#112424
09/04/08 06:53 AM
09/04/08 06:53 AM
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Quote:
Well, my car is a pretty easy project. I'm not a body guy, so it's possible I'm over-simplifying,
Theres no such thing as an easy project at a body shop. LOL
We have 2 Cudas at my shop right now. One was solid and only needed a pair of front fenders replaced and the other is getting 1/4s, trunk floor, trunk extensions, a dutchman panel and a ton of patch work. Most of the time resto work takes the back seat to collision work all though I would rather be doing the resto work and let my boss do the smashed up stuff.
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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#112427
09/05/08 12:54 PM
09/05/08 12:54 PM
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Those little perforations of rust are like the tip of the Iceberg, You only see whats at the surface, but behind the sheetmetal is way more. Be careful and make sure all rust is cut away!
1970 AAR CUDA
1970 Super Bee 383 Auto
1969 Super Bee 383 4Spd
1968 Satellite 500 Stroker
1986 Shelby GLHS
1970 Coronet 500 383 Auto
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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11/21/09 08:20 PM
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Ha ha ha ha, I have returned. The car is finally almost done. It sat since my last post here, until about a month ago, with almost no progress. I didn't want to raise hell (out of fear of jeopardizing the car) but I finally did by letting the guy know that I was coming by to pick it up. He said "it's not ready yet..." to which I replied "I know". When I and he discovered that his contract didn't have anything in it regarding incremental progress, and that I would owe him NOTHING if the job wasn't done, he really got things in gear.
Anyway, it gave me time to work on things like a really nice suspension rebuild, saving money for other parts, etc. Oh, and I also built a nice little 4-car garage in the meantime. When I remember how to post pictures here, I'll put some up of the progres...
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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11/22/09 10:36 AM
11/22/09 10:36 AM
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Wow, over 1 year, and the car still isn't even finished? How much is this costing you? How many hours did they log? You have way more patience than me. I had my car at a shop, and it was the typical story, "over promise, and under deliver" I pulled the car after 6 weeks of them not doing any work on it. The were charging $86 per hour, and logged 120 hours, doing 2 rear frame rails, floor, and torsion bar mount. The orginally told me it would only take 70 hours! After that screw up, I yanked the car as fast as I could. There work left a little to be desired too!
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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#112434
11/22/09 12:37 PM
11/22/09 12:37 PM
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Congrats on getting the body shop to step up their progress. Quick Silver gave you some great advice & having learned the hardway MANY times, I empathize w/ you. I'd suggest you take a super experienced, qualified & skilled body/paint guy along w/ you when you pick up the Cuda. BEFORE you pay the shop, have your friend thoroughly inspect it inside & out. Go over it w/ a magnet,etc & if it isn't right, don't accept the car. Read your contract & see what your rights are as to quality, acceptance, etc. Don't budge an inch w/the shop if the work isn't what was agreed upon or acceptable. Also, if you have a freind who'se an attorney, take him along, too. I'm going thru that right now w/ my 68 Cuda & had to re-do my 69 R/T SE Charger because I trusted hacks who didn't know a thing about mopars, let alone quality body work. Also, the longer the car is at the shop, the more chance of lost parts & mistakes. I paid $12K for a rotiserrie job on my 70 Cuda & after 2 yrs, the guy "lost" my bench seats & most of the trim. Probably sold it off. Shoddy work, too. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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11/22/09 02:24 PM
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Thank you for all the advice. I understand what you're saying, Quicksilver. It's a much longer story than I can put up here, but I will say that I've been watching the progress and that first picture isn't indicative. I don't know what they did there in that picture, but after that was taken, they stripped that whole section down. They cut off all the rust in the quarters and fabbed up new ones, but the body lines were wrong, so I brought in new ones and they welded them in. Same with every other area of rust, which thankfully wasn't too extensive, just the quarters, driver's floor pan, and a few small spots on the rocker and firewall.
The nice thing is this is fixed price...I don't know why the guy would do it, maybe he was hurting for work at the time, but we agreed to a price and that's what it's getting done for. (There's a contract AND I have a good lawyer already) Fixed price probably explains why it's taken so long, but at this point, I don't care, I'm just looking forward to the car back. Here's a couple more pics.
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Re: Rust repair and body shops
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#112440
11/22/09 02:55 PM
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We do fixed bid all of the time with a guaranteed maximum, as I'm sure you've all seen and commented on here.
We rely on the honor of our customers and they rely on ours. If little unexpected things pop up, we cover them at no charge. If something big that nobody expected comes up, then we work out a fair resolution.
We've never had a problem.
PS. If that's almost done, what did you contract for them to do? How much are they charging you?
Last edited by cloneguy; 11/22/09 02:58 PM.
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