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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
[Re: Jeepmon]
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11/15/11 02:02 PM
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I don't see how it could start whith the fuel cut off.
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
[Re: Kindafast]
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11/15/11 02:08 PM
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I don't see how it could start whith the fuel cut off.
its haunted!!
anyone have a link or video to this? 
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
[Re: mr_340]
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11/15/11 03:15 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Flash Gordon Mineo had a similar problem about 20 years ago on a turn-off and the engine fired up and ran into Eddie Hill's dragster on the return road. I personally think nitro engines are pretty much diesels when everything is hot after/during a run. Back in the 1980s, Bernstein said his mags quit and the car still ran a 6.02, and that was when they were running 5.60-5.80s. Don Garlit's once told me he had the wires get caught up in the blower belt and ripped all the wires off one side of the engine and it kept on running. I wonder if the fuel shut-off was completely closed in Melanie's and Flash's case? 
Yes they are diesels after about the 1/8 mile mark. The electrodes are already burnt off the spark plugs by then and they are running on heat and compression. Essentially they are detonating at that point.
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
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11/15/11 04:06 PM
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they are very careful to get ALL the fuel out of those things after a run. there must have been a leaking shutoff, or something of that nature. you can hear them "airing out" the engine in the shutdown area. any fuel left in there causes real bad things. no fuel- no dieseling. unless it ran on oil like that pro stocker did. did melanie's engine smoke when it fired?
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
[Re: maximum entropy]
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11/15/11 04:42 PM
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they are very careful to get ALL the fuel out of those things after a run. there must have been a leaking shutoff, or something of that nature. you can hear them "airing out" the engine in the shutdown area. any fuel left in there causes real bad things. no fuel- no dieseling. unless it ran on oil like that pro stocker did. did melanie's engine smoke when it fired?
A diesel will run on oil for sure, in fact will run away, and with the compression ratios the P/S are running I can see that happening easily.
And I bet those P/S aren't adhering to that .038 piston to head clearance either. 
OK, that was a cheap shot...
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
[Re: TheOtherDodge]
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11/15/11 05:21 PM
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"The electrodes are already burnt off the spark plugs by then and they are running on heat and compression. Essentially they are detonating at that point. "
That is not true. I have personally been a guest in a Top Fuel pit area and was able to pick up the spark plugs and look at them after a pass. They looked normal. I always though the same thing until I saw them.
Not only that, but if it were true, you wouldn't see a car drop a cylinder past the 1/8 mile mark. Happens all the time though.
Remember when NHRA used the ignition rev limiters to limit top speed in the fuel cars? They couldn't have done that if the spark plugs weren't working...
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Re: Melanie Troxels funny car is haunted
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11/15/11 05:28 PM
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"The electrodes are already burnt off the spark plugs by then and they are running on heat and compression. Essentially they are detonating at that point. "
That is not true. I have personally been a guest in a Top Fuel pit area and was able to pick up the spark plugs and look at them after a pass. They looked normal. I always though the same thing until I saw them.
Not only that, but if it were true, you wouldn't see a car drop a cylinder past the 1/8 mile mark. Happens all the time though.
Remember when NHRA used the ignition rev limiters to limit top speed in the fuel cars? They couldn't have done that if the spark plugs weren't working...
Maybe so, I'm no expert on fuel cars for sure. I was going by what I have heard crew chiefs say. And we all know they always tell the truth.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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