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A33 track pak package includes what? #1114094
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A33 69-71 Track Pak w/3.54 ratio

i can find the link to the dealership, "package" brochure, dos anyone have it?
does the a33 include a dana 60? the car is D21 4 speed/n96 1969 r/t
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: 68427vette] #1114095
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440 4 speed cars were Dana 60 equipped, 3.54 is the Dana ratio , 3.55 is 8.75.
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: JohnRR] #1114096
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IIRC the "Super" track pac had the 4:10s..

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: 68427vette] #1114097
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All 440 4spd cars received the 3.54 Dana as standard equipment.

Track pack upgrades the brake and cooling system and retains the 3.54

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: 68427vette] #1114098
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A33 69-71 Track Pak w/3.54 ratio

i can find the link to the dealership, "package" brochure, dos anyone have it?
does the a33 include a dana 60? the car is D21 4 speed/n96 1969 r/t


A33 came with heavy duty (18 spline) 4 speed trans, Hurst shifter with wood grain ball, 9 3/4" 3.54 Dana rear, Hemi leaf springs, dual point Prestolite distributor, 7 blade torque drive fan (216 fan with 070 clutch),heavy duty radiator (054) with fan shroud.
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1114099
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A33 69-71 Track Pak w/3.54 ratio

i can find the link to the dealership, "package" brochure, dos anyone have it?
does the a33 include a dana 60? the car is D21 4 speed/n96 1969 r/t


A33 came with heavy duty (18 spline) 4 speed trans, Hurst shifter with wood grain ball, 9 3/4" 3.54 Dana rear, Hemi leaf springs, dual point Prestolite distributor, 7 blade torque drive fan (216 fan with 070 clutch),heavy duty radiator (054) with fan shroud.



JD , I thought the rad in that package was the 055 ?
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: 68427vette] #1114100
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Here are the A33 pages from the dealer data book and price list.
Also, no offence to the posts above but A33 could have either 054 or 055 rad, both were 26".

6920448-A33.jpg (650 downloads)
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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: moparfan53] #1114101
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ah YES, there is hte sheet,, do you have the link to ALL those sheets, i cant eremember if it on the HAmrack HIstorical site or not, i'm on my labtop(other main confuzzer dies) so all my FAVORITES are on it,,
055 is the radiator
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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: moparfan53] #1114102
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Here are the A33 pages from the dealer data book and price list.
Also, no offence to the posts above but A33 could have either 054 or 055 rad, both were 26".



But there is a difference in the rads , 055 is a 2 core 26" the 054 is a 3 core 26". I want to think it would have the 3 core, considering the 383 cars with 3.91's and 3.55's got the 054, but I seem to remember this being hashed out in the past and the answer was not as expected.
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: JohnRR] #1114103
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Here are the A33 pages from the dealer data book and price list.
Also, no offence to the posts above but A33 could have either 054 or 055 rad, both were 26".



But there is a difference in the rads , 055 is a 2 core 26" the 054 is a 3 core 26". I want to think it would have the 3 core, considering the 383 cars with 3.91's and 3.55's got the 054, but I seem to remember this being hashed out in the past and the answer was not as expected.



The option included what Chrysler called the " Maximum cooling system" which is the 054.
Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1114104
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Here are the A33 pages from the dealer data book and price list.
Also, no offence to the posts above but A33 could have either 054 or 055 rad, both were 26".



But there is a difference in the rads , 055 is a 2 core 26" the 054 is a 3 core 26". I want to think it would have the 3 core, considering the 383 cars with 3.91's and 3.55's got the 054, but I seem to remember this being hashed out in the past and the answer was not as expected.



The option included what Chrysler called the " Maximum cooling system" which is the 054.



That I know but in the brochure posted above it/s not called MAX cooling , they call it 26" High Performance Radiator w/fan shroud.

Refresh my memory , what was the 055 used with ?

Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: JohnRR] #1114105
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I used to own one, and have seen several 1969 440 spd 3.54 Dana cars with the 055 radiator

IMO, I don't think the 054 is correct unless max cooling is called out for

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: moparfan53] #1114106
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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: DPelletier] #1114107
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You may have had an auto trans and 8 3/4 rear? The high performance radiator is supposed to be the 054. The 055 is for A/C which is not available with 4 speed.
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You may have had an auto trans and 8 3/4 rear? The high performance radiator is supposed to be the 054. The 055 is for A/C which is not available with 4 speed.



Not sure what you are asking? Yes the 8 3/4 is the standard diff for all engines with an auto and 383 regarless of tranny. My 440-6 car has no superperformance axle package and so has the standard 8 3/4.

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: DPelletier] #1114109
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What I am saying is that I believe the 1969 high performance B-Body radiator is the 054. The 055 is for A/C cars where a performance axle package was not available. Otherwise, why would they call it an HP radiator if it's not the 054?

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1114110
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What I am saying is that I believe the 1969 high performance B-Body radiator is the 054. The 055 is for A/C cars where a performance axle package was not available. Otherwise, why would they call it an HP radiator if it's not the 054?



Ahhh, I see; you were actually talking to Bill, not me.

None of the promotional data I have says 054 = High performance.... all they say is that Max cooling includes a "high capacity" 26" radiator and the axle packages include a "high Performance" 26" rad I don't know which is the 054 and which is the 055.

....so I guess you're saying the "high performance" rad = 054 and Bill is saying that based on his experience the "high performance" rad = 055.



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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: DPelletier] #1114111
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None of the promotional data I have says 054 = High performance.... all they say is that Max cooling includes a "high capacity" 26" radiator and the axle packages include a "high Performance" 26" rad I don't know which is the 054 and which is the 055.

....so I guess you're saying the "high performance" rad = 054 and Bill is saying that based on his experience the "high performance" rad = 055.



Dave



Exactly. I've seen several original 440 4spd cars with the standard 3.54 dana and the 055 radiator.

I bought my former 1969 GTX vert from the 2nd owner. And I would dare say it was the original radiator in it.

440 4spd, 3.54 dana , manual steering and manual drum brakes, no power steering cooler obviously

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: DPelletier] #1114112
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Yes, I was responding to Bill. Bill if you had an axle package car or a 440 4 speed car with an 055, it was probably not original to the car. I just got home and the parts manual only lists the 055 for the 383 and 440 Eng. w/A/Cond. The axle package cars packages in the post above all say they come with the high performance radiator which is the 054 "Hemi" radiator. The 054 is listed in the parts manual as standard w/426Eng. and falls under the "Maximum Cooling Pkg., Less Fan w/383 and 440 Eng." The max cooling pakage was one of the features with a special order axle package. The 055 radiator is not the high performance radiator...I'm just saying. I think it's Miller time now.

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So beyond radiator differences, which packages included a power steering cooler?
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