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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: JohnRR] #1114114
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Here are the A33 pages from the dealer data book and price list.
Also, no offence to the posts above but A33 could have either 054 or 055 rad, both were 26".




But there is a difference in the rads , 055 is a 2 core 26" the 054 is a 3 core 26". I want to think it would have the 3 core, considering the 383 cars with 3.91's and 3.55's got the 054, but I seem to remember this being hashed out in the past and the answer was not as expected.




You are correct about the extra core, I am aware of that and also that the 054 has a larger trans cooler. Guess I should have explained a little more. Back in the mid eighties I was helping a friend with his 69 Charger 440/A33 restoration and we had the same 054/055 rad question. This was before the internet (yah, I'm a old fart ) so we relied on our collection of dealer sales books, parts books, and one other local car. We went with the 055 rad but were not 100% sure it was correct. Since then I have often looked at A33 cars/broadcast sheets just for reference. They all have been consistent in that the hemi/A33 cars had the 054 rad and the 440/A33 cars had the 055 rad. I am not saying all A33 were built that way but the 12 or so I have seen over the years have been.
I think Chrysler considered the 055 a "high performance" rad in the A33/440 pkg as compared to the standard 22" one. The only place I have seen reference to the "maximum cooling system" is in the A35 trailer towing pkg however I would think there are other places.
Just my

Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1114115
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Yes, I was responding to Bill. Bill if you had an axle package car or a 440 4 speed car with an 055, it was probably not original to the car. ....The 055 radiator is not the high performance radiator...I'm just saying. I think it's Miller time now.




055 was 440 four speed (A33) with 3.54,and A/C.

The 054 with different fan drive etc (Max Cool package) was 383 with 3:55 (A36), 3:91's (A31); Hemi; and 440-with 3:55's or 4:10s (A32, A34, A36), trailer towing (A35) and cop car. Basically... ANY optional axle package got the 054.

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: dart1962_440] #1114116
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So beyond radiator differences, which packages included a power steering cooler?




I have also wondered that but have not yet found anything on paper that specifies. The parts book (page attached) lists the cooler for A bodies with 273,318 & 440 engines, and B bodies with 383 & 440 so it is not much help. Several years ago I read that the cooler came with 3.54 or higher gearing. Since then I have paid close attention when looking at cars online, at car shows etc and that has been true so far with both auto and stick cars.

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: moparfan53] #1114117
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So beyond radiator differences, which packages included a power steering cooler?




I have also wondered that but have not yet found anything on paper that specifies. The parts book (page attached) lists the cooler for A bodies with 273,318 & 440 engines, and B bodies with 383 & 440 so it is not much help. Several years ago I read that the cooler came with 3.54 or higher gearing. Since then I have paid close attention when looking at cars online, at car shows etc and that has been true so far with both auto and stick cars.




From the other 054-055 radiator thread here is my '69 GTX with the A33 package and power steering WITH the ps cooler....pretty sure original


oops forgot it's a 4-speed car, with power discs


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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: A12] #1114118
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and to add this into the mix a '69 GTX, Torqueflite, 3.23 Suregrip (8-3/4 of course) power steering WITHOUT a cooler and a 22" radiator. I know this wasn't part of this topic or question just posted it because I ran across this photo looking for something else but it confirms what has been said in this thread. Don't pay any attention to me, just rambling

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Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: A12] #1114119
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These two threads should be linked

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post6833141

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and since we're talking radiators and in particular the 055 here's another related link:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post6317914

Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: A12] #1114121
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Can't find the link to the thread where the 054 verus 055 radiator was discussed before before.....anyone know where it is, had to be 2010 late Spring or summer?

Thanks for the info in these threads this has bothered me for a while. Now I don't want to wreck this thread but at one point is was discussed that power brakes (disc front) or power steering had something to do with which radiator and of course the trans and engine type so here's what my '69 GTX has:

440 4bbl
4-speed
3.54 Dana
Power Steering (with cooler)
Power Brakes (discs front)
26" 2949 055 radiator
Heater only

Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: A12] #1114122
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My 69 Coronet R/T convertible has 4.10 Dana / Auto (A32) and the 054 radiator... no power steering cooler but I've often wondered if it should have one.

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My 69 Coronet R/T convertible has 4.10 Dana / Auto (A32) and the 054 radiator... no power steering cooler but I've often wondered if it should have one.

Darren




I would think that it should have a p/s cooler on your R/T. I know the cooler tab that holds it to the engine bracket can and does break and they get removed (DAMHIK ).

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My 69 Coronet R/T convertible has 4.10 Dana / Auto (A32) and the 054 radiator... no power steering cooler but I've often wondered if it should have one.

Darren




I would think that it should have a p/s cooler on your R/T. I know the cooler tab that holds it to the engine bracket can and does break and they get removed (DAMHIK ).




Thanks Mike... without steering the thread off-topic, do you have the steering cooler part number? I assume they're not easy to find!

Darren

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Might want to call Bob at Glen-Ray Radiators, he was kicking around making reproduction P/S coolers, I didn't keep up on how he was doing with that idea ...........but it was part of the A33 package if you had power steering just to keep this on topic


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Might want to call Bob at Glen-Ray Radiators, he was kicking around making reproduction P/S coolers, I didn't keep up on how he was doing with that idea ...........but it was part of the A33 package if you had power steering just to keep this on topic

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Thanks Mike!!! Looks like they do have them at Glen-Ray

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Might want to call Bob at Glen-Ray Radiators, he was kicking around making reproduction P/S coolers, I didn't keep up on how he was doing with that idea ...........but it was part of the A33 package if you had power steering just to keep this on topic

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Thanks Mike!!! Looks like they do have them at Glen-Ray



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Might want to call Bob at Glen-Ray Radiators, he was kicking around making reproduction P/S coolers, I didn't keep up on how he was doing with that idea ...........but it was part of the A33 package if you had power steering just to keep this on topic

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Thanks Mike!!! Looks like they do have them at Glen-Ray







Did you look at the price BEFORE posting that ?

Oh wait , you are an A12 owner $$$$

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Might want to call Bob at Glen-Ray Radiators, he was kicking around making reproduction P/S coolers, I didn't keep up on how he was doing with that idea ...........but it was part of the A33 package if you had power steering just to keep this on topic

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Thanks Mike!!! Looks like they do have them at Glen-Ray







Did you look at the price BEFORE posting that ?

Oh wait , you are an A12 owner $$$$




yeah that's cheaper then the "NOS" or used "A12" power steering cooler off of an "A12, HEMI, Six Pack" on the bag Haven't checked lately but they were going for nearly twice that a while back.

Re: A33 track pak package includes what? [Re: 68427vette] #1114130
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ah YES, there is hte sheet,, do you have the link to ALL those sheets, i cant eremember if it on the HAmrack HIstorical site or not, i'm on my labtop(other main confuzzer dies) so all my FAVORITES are on it,,
055 is the radiator
thanks




Jeff, do you have a broadcast sheet for the car you're asking about........care to comment on this thread about the 055 radiator, please and pretty please

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post6833141


Thanks,

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