Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: LAR_414]
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04/13/12 10:00 AM
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With traction, your rear will go before the trans.
i have the 8 3/4 in it, and the dana almost ready to go
I know traction will be an issue, i have 26 x 11.50 x 15 hoosier QTP and ss springs.... Ive been following the leaf link and think i may change my dana in and do this. The dana is mark williams 40 spline axles, richmond gears (4.56) and MW 40 spline spool. Mine will be a street car with occasional track abuse.
any chance with traction ill be into the 10's with a good tune on it?
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Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: 8urvette]
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04/13/12 05:06 PM
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With traction, your rear will go before the trans.
i have the 8 3/4 in it, and the dana almost ready to go
I know traction will be an issue, i have 26 x 11.50 x 15 hoosier QTP and ss springs.... Ive been following the leaf link and think i may change my dana in and do this. The dana is mark williams 40 spline axles, richmond gears (4.56) and MW 40 spline spool. Mine will be a street car with occasional track abuse.
any chance with traction ill be into the 10's with a good tune on it?
With a Dana like that going behind it, I would be more worried about the transmission...its all going to be in the clutch, which you never mentioned which one your using...But I think with an engine like yours and the e/t's your after an adjustable would be the best way to get there without shattering every part behind the engine.
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Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: Grizzly]
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04/14/12 09:24 AM
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I don't know what your car weighs but the T/A used to be about 3450 and I have had a clutch assembly (wheel,disc,plate) as light as 24 lbs. It really comes down what your car will want. I put a alum wheel in the Duster it was about 11 lbs. Car didn't like it so I upped it to a 18 lb steel wheel, still didn't get along. Ended up with a 30 lb steel wheel. That car only makes about 300 hp. I put the 3.09 in the car thinking it would slow the rear wheels down and get a some what heavy car moving. The problem I have with it is second gear comes a whole lot sooner too. When the track is killer I can use it, when the track sucks you look like a idiot. Course none of that applies to a set of slicks. So like anything else it is about the combo
Last edited by scatpacktom; 04/14/12 09:31 AM.
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Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: scatpacktom]
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04/14/12 10:14 AM
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Just throwing this out there, but a 4 inch crank in a 340 block doesn't care one bit about the rpm drop going into second with a 3.09 gear. Only the tires care
I dont understand what you mean but i cant see how it would be better than the 2.66 first. Even if a 4 incher there will not be much power at 4300 rpms. And besides 4 inchers doesnt like to turn high rpms. Mine is out of power at max 6500 so useing the 3.09 rpms would drop to about 4000 i wouldnt want that. Im no pro builder but i dont think you can build a motor with that broad power range.
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Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: LAR_414]
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04/14/12 01:22 PM
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Remember, something has to give or parts will break due to the SHOCK.
I prefer a clutch that locks and doesn't slip. I rely on a bit of tire spin at the track to keep from breaking.
On the street it's almost impossible to get even the best tires to dead hook, so you'll probably be safe there.
If you are a pro racer or trying to bracket race, then the car is more consistent with a dead hook and a slipping clutch at the launch. That setup is more expensive and less streetable. Not saying it's not streetable, just LESS streetable.
An adjustable B&B with sintered iron disk is a good Street strip compromise............
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Re: A-833 4 speed racers...Setup?
[Re: scatpacktom]
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04/14/12 01:46 PM
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Tom: The aluminum flywheel idea was something that I had hoped would bring the rpms down faster so the wide gear ratio box could be shifted quicker. That '72 Swinger that I linked above is running the 833OD. From doing a bit of searching he runs 13.40 with that car. You can hear him hit his limiter in first and then when he grabs second the slanty just grunts it out and keeps on pulling. His launch looked fine to me, I dunno, I was sure impressed. If a slant-six can handle those wide ratios, I'm sure a 426 to 440 small block should just have no problems at all, like you mentioned above. I have an 833OD on my bench and if I can ever find a 318 bell housing for it, it's going behind my 340 six pack to see what it can do. One things for sure: that .71 is sure going to be nice for the 2 hour ride home.
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