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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1102885
10/28/11 04:01 PM
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I bought Cabs old 98.5 Dodge, Its got over half a million miles on it now. Just replaced the waterpump and changed out the auto to a NV4500 5 speed. I love it, its ready for another 500k. Im just waiting on Cab to sell me the truck he has now...LOL

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1102886
10/28/11 04:23 PM
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Mesa , Az
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What is the differences in the 2004.5 and the non 2004.5? I had a 1998.5 , it was a 24 valve with EFI instead of the 12 valve motor with standard injection, I loved that truck but needed a long bed and moved to Oregon where I really needed a 4 WHD so I bought a 2006 3500 4 WHD single wheel four door with the automatic, it rocks towing and non towing. It is my daily driver now. Is your motor the high output or ths standard motor? I have been told by several people I trust that the 2003 and 2004 get better mileage than the 2006 do I have a freind that had a 2005 4WHD 3500 dually with the automatic that towed his race car trailer, enclosed 24 Ft Pace Shadow and he had a 12.5 camper on it usually, I couldn't outrun him on the hills here in Oregon with my truck and same trailer with no camper on my truck It is really fun passing the other brands, especially the V10, on the hills




2003-2004 don't have the pre shot of fuel which I think were done to aid in quieting the engine down on later 05+ hence the reason for better fuel mileage.

4.5s have an external fuel pump and 05+ are in tank I believe.


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Jambbii] #1102887
10/28/11 04:46 PM
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Pittsburgh PA
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What is the differences in the 2004.5 and the non 2004.5? I had a 1998.5 , it was a 24 valve with EFI instead of the 12 valve motor with standard injection, I loved that truck but needed a long bed and moved to Oregon where I really needed a 4 WHD so I bought a 2006 3500 4 WHD single wheel four door with the automatic, it rocks towing and non towing. It is my daily driver now. Is your motor the high output or ths standard motor? I have been told by several people I trust that the 2003 and 2004 get better mileage than the 2006 do I have a freind that had a 2005 4WHD 3500 dually with the automatic that towed his race car trailer, enclosed 24 Ft Pace Shadow and he had a 12.5 camper on it usually, I couldn't outrun him on the hills here in Oregon with my truck and same trailer with no camper on my truck It is really fun passing the other brands, especially the V10, on the hills




2003-2004 don't have the pre shot of fuel which I think were done to aid in quieting the engine down on later 05+ hence the reason for better fuel mileage.

4.5s have an external fuel pump and 05+ are in tank I believe.




This one has had the pump relocated in the tank I believe...atleast thats what the former owner said


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Eric] #1102888
10/28/11 05:32 PM
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Cedar Rapids, IA
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My 04.5 got 19-21 highway, 16 in town, 12 towing a 24 foot enclosed with a 69 3200 # abody inside at 70mph. It was a 2500 HO quad cab auto with 3.7x gear. Wish I still had it! It had way more go than the 95 I have now.


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Jambbii] #1102889
10/28/11 07:47 PM
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What is the differences in the 2004.5 and the non 2004.5? I had a 1998.5 , it was a 24 valve with EFI instead of the 12 valve motor with standard injection, I loved that truck but needed a long bed and moved to Oregon where I really needed a 4 WHD so I bought a 2006 3500 4 WHD single wheel four door with the automatic, it rocks towing and non towing. It is my daily driver now. Is your motor the high output or ths standard motor? I have been told by several people I trust that the 2003 and 2004 get better mileage than the 2006 do I have a freind that had a 2005 4WHD 3500 dually with the automatic that towed his race car trailer, enclosed 24 Ft Pace Shadow and he had a 12.5 camper on it usually, I couldn't outrun him on the hills here in Oregon with my truck and same trailer with no camper on my truck It is really fun passing the other brands, especially the V10, on the hills




2003-2004 don't have the pre shot of fuel which I think were done to aid in quieting the engine down on later 05+ hence the reason for better fuel mileage.

4.5s have an external fuel pump and 05+ are in tank I believe.




the 03-04 HO were 305 hp and 555 of torque and were not 50 state legal because they did not come with a cat.you could only get a Super Output truck in calaforna.the 03-04 Ho trucks did not have the thired injection event. on the 04.5 to 07 5.9 the thired injection event was to keep the cat hot enough to help burn off the soot.thats why the 03-04 got the best fuel milage of the 03-07 5.9 trucks.04.5 was the frist year the ctd was 50 state legal and cam with 325 hp and 600 torque.in 05 they raised the numbers to 325/610

great looking truck you got. hope it serves you well. here is a pic of my daily driver/ tow truck. its a 07 6.7 with a few mods. mopar65


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Eric] #1102890
10/28/11 08:39 PM
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Anoka County, MN
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Is it 4WD? I'm thinking about selling my truck, and dial in to a driver deal myself. Too much stuff, not enough room.

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Eric] #1102891
10/28/11 08:41 PM
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San Jose Ca.
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This one has had the pump relocated in the tank I believe...atleast thats what the former owner said



That was a factory thing! my truck had that done at the dealership.

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: boatracer572] #1102892
10/28/11 09:55 PM
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St. Louis, MO
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Congrats on the 'new to you' tow rig. My tow vehicle doubles as my daily driver...an 04 High Output 4x4 with a 6spd manual trans.

I was a juvenile and removed the silencer ring out of the turbo. Everybody thinks the truck is all fixed up as a result. (Turbo spooling up is very noticeable now.) It's stock other than the too-big exhaust that was on there when I bought it. I painted that flat black so it is not as noticeable.

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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #1102893
10/28/11 10:06 PM
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What??? No more motor toter? lol

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Chad Bittle] #1102894
10/28/11 10:37 PM
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GO BUCKS !!!!!!!
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Hey nice truck Eric

I have a 05 with the Cummins and i love it.

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #1102895
10/28/11 11:51 PM
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IMO the most important thing with the 03 and later common rail diesels is fuel cleanliness/dryness. I've been a dealer tech since 1988, between 1989 and 2002 I saw maybe 2 or 3 engines out of a CTD. Between 03 to present I've seen at least 20 engine failures. Mostly caused by dirt or rust in the injectors causing them to stick fully on, toasting the motor to varying degrees. I'm pretty sure thats what happened here:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post6492705

So the moral of the story here is buy good fuel, change your filter regularily, and use the water drain on the bottom of the filter AT LEAST at every oil change.

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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: 10sec440] #1102896
10/29/11 12:41 AM
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Johnstown
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I picked up a new Cummins tow vehicle this year too

but mine has the older 12 valve industrial type engine. I hope for 10 mpg.


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Eric] #1102897
10/29/11 02:16 PM
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Pittsburgh PA
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Another pic...

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5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Eric] #1102898
10/29/11 02:24 PM
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Mt. Vernon, Ohio
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is that snow I see in your driveway??????


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: Cab_Burge] #1102899
10/29/11 05:02 PM
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Buford, GA
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Is that silver on the bottom? If so, it's the (almost) twin to my '03 V-10,2wd (and mine had the cab marker lights). You'll really like the mileage and towing power.

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... It is really fun passing the other brands, especially the V10, on the hills




Now Cab, my V-10 pulled as well uphill as my (stock) CTD (towing the same camper)- it just did it at 7.5 mpg instead of 13.


Tim


'71 Charger 383/727
'17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car wink )
Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1102900
10/29/11 05:51 PM
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Way out in the sticks of Weste...
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Hey Eric,

You got a place picked out for your Pug to ride???


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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: DusterDog] #1102901
10/29/11 06:53 PM
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Hey Eric,

You got a place picked out for your Pug to ride???




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5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1102902
10/29/11 10:33 PM
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Quote:

... It is really fun passing the other brands, especially the V10, on the hills




Now Cab, my V-10 pulled as well uphill as my (stock) CTD (towing the same camper)- it just did it at 7.5 mpg instead of 13.


Tim




I had the exact same experience. I have a 98 24valve now.I put bigger injectors, exhaust and a quadzilla box in it, now it blows the V10 away. AND it still gets 13mpg, even towing an almost 15,000lb trailer!

Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: 10sec440] #1102903
10/29/11 10:57 PM
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MY 98 12V 5SPEED 2WD,I BOUGHT NEW IN OCT 97.20MPG IF I KEEP IT AT 75 EMPTY. 12 TO 13 WITH 26 FT ENCLOSED TRAILER IF YOU KEEP IT AT 2100 RPM . LOVE THE TRUCK BUT REALLY WOULD LIKE A NEWER TRUCK WITH LARGER CAB.

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Re: Caught up on a few bills soooo...new tow rig time! [Re: 10sec440] #1102904
10/30/11 10:52 AM
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I had the exact same experience. I have a 98 24valve now.I put bigger injectors, exhaust and a quadzilla box in it, now it blows the V10 away. AND it still gets 13mpg, even towing an almost 15,000lb trailer!




Hmmmm... maybe I need to look into a box for mine.
I've heard if I don't go too crazy with it mileage (and power [Tim Taylor voice] Ohhohhohh, more power... [/Tim Taylor voice] ) will increase but if I get too wild with it, it will puke the trans.


Tim


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'17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car wink )
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