Re: mopars and X275
[Re: cold85]
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10/17/11 09:05 PM
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Wouldn't want to try to run a nitrous combo in those texas rules. Hey cold 85 nice wheelie!! hope she is ok..
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Re: mopars and X275
[Re: W8n2DustU]
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10/17/11 10:10 PM
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Can a Mopar be built to run up front? If so, what combo would it take? I know alot of money.
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Re: mopars and X275
[Re: cold85]
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10/18/11 12:02 AM
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Can a Mopar be built to run up front? If so, what combo would it take? I know alot of money.
I tried to pm u back but ur in box is full
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 09:37 AM
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x275 record was reset this weekend 4.785 by kevin neal like i mentioned earlier.
i think if anyone wants to even begin to guess what it takes to run this class, they should come to the race in february at sgmp so you can see it for yourself
my car makes a whole bunch of power, and i look at these guys who also make a TON of power and they really have to lean on those bad a$$ rides to run those numbers. its not the same as watching big tire bracket cars run those same numbers!
hey, heads up, congrats on getting that blue camaro figured out. i watched that car make great strides this weekend
UHHH I'm starting to hate that car as much as mine. We had a bad miss/popping problem and thought we had it fixed and got there thursday and still had it. So we checked everything and threw a ton of parts on it and one of them fixed it. The biggest thing we are trying to do is get the car to repeat now. We went the 5.00 with a very soft tune-up and got in the top 32 race in the heat sat, and pulled to the starting line twice with the same tune-up on Sat nite just 1 click tighter on front shocks on a track that was leaps and bounds better and smoke the tires in .04. Sunday same tune-up as when we went 5.00, same car set-up, track temp within 5 deg. and air 200 ft difference and smoke the tires. It just makes you wanna pull your hair out. But its all good, we will figure it out. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: mopars and X275
[Re: cold85]
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10/18/11 12:21 PM
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I think they may give the sb nitrous a 50-100lb break and take off 50 for ladder bars. IMO I have not heard anything this is just my opinion. And if they do that how much weight do you think you could have to play with steven?
I'm really not 100%. The only thing I really have to go by is my old nitrous set-up, and I asked the guy with the blue duster running 5.70 this past weekend was 2850 with driver but he was 10 point cage, w-9 engine, 904, glass hood and doors, tubular front end, nice wheels brakes etc. My old car with homemade front steer set-up, all steel exept hood, bumpers factory glass. BB lowdeck, 727, 9" iron center, 12 point mild cage, 1 10 lb bottle, 3 gallon cell, all the weight out with me in it (im 240) was 3090lbs. Like my car is currently with turbo,intercooler,ice tank, water tank and all is 3275. My new car is going to have glass hood, bumpers, doors, decklid, lexan winsheild, alum center section, a ton more bars but will be moly. I think I can do it, and I do agree the only weight that will be ajusted will be nitrous sb with the turbo,blower,n2oBB being so close and a few numbers faster.
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 02:19 PM
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Chad, what does your Dart weigh? I think with a maximum lightening effort a 67-69 Dart can get pretty light with a all aluminum nitrous engine. I still would like to attempt a GenIII Hemi with a turbo in a new Challenger. The Hemi is light, can make good power I just worry about 4 heads bolts. I may just say f'it and screw one together.
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 06:45 PM
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Chad, what does your Dart weigh? I think with a maximum lightening effort a 67-69 Dart can get pretty light with a all aluminum nitrous engine. I still would like to attempt a GenIII Hemi with a turbo in a new Challenger. The Hemi is light, can make good power I just worry about 4 heads bolts. I may just say f'it and screw one together.
well the biggest thing is sealing up the heads so it may be taking a chance but only one way to know. I do not know how much my car would weigh without any lead in it. I have always had to add so much I have never even counted all the lead bricks and some of them are different. I just scale it and move the 10 bricks of the same weight around to get what I want.
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 07:21 PM
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I will admit I don't know the 275 & X275 rules but if they allow a round tube backhalf car that's the only way I see getting even an A-Body light enough. The Dart Donald & I run has stock frame rails front to rear, basic 6 points of cage are mild steel balance is moly, ladder bars, Bob's Pro Fab front end, 5 gal fuel cell, one 16V battery, 1 10# n2o bottle, 2 Kirkey sets, Spaghetti Menders wiring, fiberglass hood, bumpers, doors & deck lid, lexan side windows, quarter glass & rear window, R3/W8 w/ Liberty 5 speed. It weighed right at 3000# with Donald race ready. We may go to fiberglass front fenders and a lexan windshield while rebuilding from the fire but I don't where can find anymore weight to remove. Not saying it couldn't be done but someone would have to spend a major amount of money for very little return. In my younger days If I would have had the resources I do now I probably would try to built a competitive car but the older I get I just don't see spending the $. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif) Mike Gray
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 08:30 PM
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I will admit I don't know the 275 & X275 rules but if they allow a round tube backhalf car that's the only way I see getting even an A-Body light enough. The Dart Donald & I run has stock frame rails front to rear, basic 6 points of cage are mild steel balance is moly, ladder bars, Bob's Pro Fab front end, 5 gal fuel cell, one 16V battery, 1 10# n2o bottle, 2 Kirkey sets, Spaghetti Menders wiring, fiberglass hood, bumpers, doors & deck lid, lexan side windows, quarter glass & rear window, R3/W8 w/ Liberty 5 speed. It weighed right at 3000# with Donald race ready.
We may go to fiberglass front fenders and a lexan windshield while rebuilding from the fire but I don't where can find anymore weight to remove.
Not saying it couldn't be done but someone would have to spend a major amount of money for very little return. In my younger days If I would have had the resources I do now I probably would try to built a competitive car but the older I get I just don't see spending the $. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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Heya Mike, Donalds car would fit right in. I think SB nos without canted valve heads needs to be 2950#.
I hear ya on blowing the money as you get older. This is why I've been tap dancing around actually putting something together the last couple of years. It's easy to just fart around with the GTX and not have to bust a$$ on a heads-up car.
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Re: mopars and X275
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10/18/11 09:17 PM
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From what i can tell from studying this for the last few weeks is it would be beneficial to do the allaluminum W8 package. I have a brand new block and access to some good heads. I already have all the other things from BS3 to the turbo. I will go ahead and purchase a new SE Challenger. Anyone need a new V6? Lol. Anyone know the best places to get the Dragpak specific glass and other light weight components? Anyone making carbon parts? Also which front suspension is better?
2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
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