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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: Paul Jacobs]
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10/08/11 07:18 AM
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I could post over 10,000 pictures on here of details, but few people would appreciate them
Paul, i would for sure  and im sure alot of others would to.
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-they would rather bicker back and forth with their closed minds and that is why I haven't been on here in months.
i totally understand and have felt the same way at times. please try to ignore the bs and continue to share your input, i always appreciate reading it
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I'm telling you for a fact, after taking over 100 cars apart, I have seen things that people would NEVER accept was factory, but things were a little different in the real world of production....
right on!
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: A12]
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10/08/11 07:25 AM
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okay maybe this is where or how the partially painted engine color negative battery cable came to be the "norm", note the Hemi valve covers are not ORANGE so does that mean they were not on the engine when it was painted and if you lay the negative cable on top of the open valve/rocker arm area and covered it or avoided painting the open area you might end up with just about that much of the negative battery cable NOT painted.....hmmmmmmmmmmm so maybe this is the "norm" FOR A HEMI that is 
MikeR
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hemi valve covers WERE installed during engine painting, but they were masked off, on most orig paint VCs you can see orange overspray usually near the base of the VC.
survivors are great for reference but also need to be scrutinzed as not many are 100% virgins.
the green rr pictured while a great car, has had some service items replaced, like the coil, pretty sure the washer bottle, plug wires, and im guessing from the looks of it the negative cable too. so if thats the case the overspray on the cable wouldnt be good for reference.
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: Paul Jacobs]
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10/08/11 11:53 AM
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I could post over 10,000 pictures on here of details, but few people would appreciate them-they would rather bicker back and forth with their closed minds and that is why I haven't been on here in months.
Nah... just burn me a DVD with the pics and mail
'em over... I'd appreciate them. 
I've seen some pretty radical blackouts myself.
This reminds me of a 71 Hemi Cuda that I duplicated the blackout that hit the front of the hood and actually ran a bit. (showed that the hood was closed when it was sprayed, at least on that example). Likewise, I heard a few comments about it later. Not a big deal to remove if you don't like it...
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: RestoRick]
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10/08/11 11:59 AM
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I could post over 10,000 pictures on here of details, but few people would appreciate them
Nah... just burn me a DVD with the pics and mail
'em over... I'd appreciate them.
Ditto,,,, 1000%
and while your burning one  ,
you have my address 
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: RoadRunnerJD]
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10/11/11 06:07 PM
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OK, after this, I will finally drop it but I was just asking you to say what you would do if you were going to restore that car? You say not but you have been trying to rationalize the overspray on your "valence" for a couple of months? I think it's a real restoration question that has gone unanswered in two posts now. There are really three questions here for you Grandpa:
• If the red car above was your car, would you restore the overspray above the lip?
• If you could not document that the car came that way,
would you do it that way because it may have been painted
that badly by a careless overpaid union line worker?
• It's not your fault and I may be way off base but why did
someone with Paul Jacobs experience get overspray on your
expensive paint job with no documentation if that is the case,
resulting in you losing a point that may have cost you an
award?
Grandpa, this is not to be critical. It's just to get to the bottom of the points you are trying to make. Everyone posting has answered your questions. The judges at the Mopar Nats had no choice regarding the overspray but definitely could have been more lenient on the battery cable. The radials and wrong wheels on the other car are just wrong. Your car is beautiful. I would not hesitate to enter in judged shows. They are not going to be like Mopar Nats....although, if you take the comments to heart, you could get a perfect score next year. You may win first everytime and you may not but it's all good.
Well , not to keep laboring away on this but I did take my car to a local mopar car show and the car won Best of Show. Afterwards the judges, who were very experienced painters, said they appreciated the fact that my car was not "over restored". They liked the fact that the car had the correct oversprays and items were not masked off to keep the overspray off surrounding items. Now, did my car really have overspray on the grill support from the factory? I don't have a clue and neither did Paul. But based on his experience and endless amount of survivor pictures it could have. But my question remains the same in my original post. I'm not wanting anyone to take my side, just wanting to know how this black out was really applied: from a pit, from above or both. Does anyone really know?????
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there?
[Re: A12]
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10/11/11 11:54 PM
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