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Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? #1088460
10/04/11 08:24 PM 10/04/11 08:24 PM
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This thread is for CONSTRUCTIVE discussions only and is intended to help everyone understand what the common practice was, if there was a common practice. If you post here trying to critisize someone PLEASE don't!

So here's the question. When they blacked out the core support did they get over spray on the valance and/or core support? If you don't have documented pictures of survivor cars PLEASE don't post your opinion or guesses as that leads to .
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088461
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Not sure what car you're doing. Here are some from a T/A.

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: floyd] #1088462
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088463
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Yep, it sure helps to tell us EXACTLY what car you are referencing, it makes a difference as to what got painted.

The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088464
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I saw the photo on the other forum where you had black overspray (spots) on top of the painted grill and latch support. Can you post the photo? Even if you had documentation photos to show yours specifically came that way, I would not leave it like that. Nobody would question a nicely painted grill support but everyone who sees the overspray on top will question it. If you can't document it, it doesn't make any sense to have the overspray on it? It would normally get cleaned up one way or another at the factory or detailed upon delivery but I would want it to look good for shows if It were mine.

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Rhinodart] #1088465
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Yep, it sure helps to tell us EXACTLY what car you are referencing, it makes a difference as to what got painted.



I believe the O.P. is looking for blackout pictures of survivior radiator supports and area of 1969 Plymouth B-bodies.

Don't know if 1969 Coronetss would be the same?
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088466
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I have several that show just what you are looking for, but they are too large to post.

PM me with your email address and I will send them to you. This is a point of contention with over restored cars that are being pushed by "Others" as being correct.
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: autoxcuda] #1088467
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Yep, it sure helps to tell us EXACTLY what car you are referencing, it makes a difference as to what got painted.



I believe the O.P. is looking for blackout pictures of survivior radiator supports and area of 1969 Plymouth B-bodies.



'68, '69 & 70 B bodies if they are pretty much the same. And not just the radiator support. The valance that has the hood latch is also important for this thread. See attached pic.

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088468
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When it comes to blackout paint on the core support they were all treated the same across the years and the product lines. It was strictly a "lick and a promise" process.

I was told that it was done by a guy in a pit as the car passed over his head and the results seem to bare those facts out. It was a crappy haphazzard job that was done at best.
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088469
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Again, not being critical but just trying to help with semantics. That is the grill support, not the valence. The question was can you document it? Here's some food for thought: do you feel it adds anything to the appearance or authenticity of your car? Do you like the way it looks or should anyone else? Do you think you could remove the overspray without damaging the paint? (If it's clearcoat or a cured single stage urethane before it was blacked out, you might be able to fix it.) What would be your reason for leaving it that way unless it is just out of respect for Paul
Jacobs creating it like that?
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1088470
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: cdp] #1088471
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: cdp] #1088472
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: cdp] #1088473
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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: az426john] #1088474
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Quote:

When it comes to blackout paint on the core support they were all treated the same across the years and the product lines. It was strictly a "lick and a promise" process.

I was told that it was done by a guy in a pit as the car passed over his head and the results seem to bare those facts out. It was a crappy haphazzard job that was done at best.



Nope, not the same on A-Bodys! Because of the other post I was pretty sure he meant 68-70 B-Body's, but just being sure. The PROCESS was the same, like you said a guy in a pit, but there are differences on what was assembled when the process was done.

The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: cdp] #1088475
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valance..


Wow! I can't believe the amount of black on the back of the valence and how little on the radiator support! Good photos but what about on top if your grill support?
Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: cdp] #1088476
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other side.

I think the guy in the pit must have taken some "tokes" before trying to apply the black out on this A12. Not a very good job of getting the radiator support painted.
More pics Please.
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Are you looking for A, B, or E body pics?

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: NV69B7RR] #1088478
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Are you looking for A, B, or E body pics?

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Re: Black Out Overspray- Any Survivor Pictures out there? [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1088479
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other side.

I think the guy in the pit must have taken some "tokes" before trying to apply the black out on this A12. Not a very good job of getting the radiator support painted.
More pics Please.



I'm sure that radiator support had more paint on it when it was new than it does now 30 some odd years later ..

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