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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: LUMI]
#1069982
09/06/11 03:24 PM
09/06/11 03:24 PM
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Virginia Beach, VA
Old School
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Virginia Beach, VA
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do it like my engine has been done 
Venolia 4.5 pistons, Callies 4.77 Crank, 6.8" H beam Rods, Koleno KP440 Block, out of the box Koffel B1 Original Heads, B1 intake, 1050 Holley Dominator, Crane Mec Roller 320/328deg 114 disp angle int .79 ex .76 with 1.7 ratio, CR10.69
dynoed at Koffels Place and with Shell 93 Octane Pump fuel
thats what im talking about.... 
68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: Old School]
#1069983
09/06/11 03:35 PM
09/06/11 03:35 PM
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Sk. Canada
RemCharger
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do it like my engine has been done
Venolia 4.5 pistons, Callies 4.77 Crank, 6.8" H beam Rods, Koleno KP440 Block, out of the box Koffel B1 Original Heads, B1 intake, 1050 Holley Dominator, Crane Mec Roller 320/328deg 114 disp angle int .79 ex .76 with 1.7 ratio, CR10.69
dynoed at Koffels Place and with Shell 93 Octane Pump fuel
thats what im talking about....
NICE! 
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: LUMI]
#1069984
09/06/11 03:38 PM
09/06/11 03:38 PM
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U.S.
moparniac
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do it like my engine has been done
Venolia 4.5 pistons, Callies 4.77 Crank, 6.8" H beam Rods, Koleno KP440 Block, out of the box Koffel B1 Original Heads, B1 intake, 1050 Holley Dominator, Crane Mec Roller 320/328deg 114 disp angle int .79 ex .76 with 1.7 ratio, CR10.69
dynoed at Koffels Place and with Shell 93 Octane Pump fuel
10.69 to 1 and unported B1 originals making 942HP... hmmmmm
Mopar Performance
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#1069987
09/06/11 03:55 PM
09/06/11 03:55 PM
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Posts: 70
Murrieta, CA
BlownHemiCharger
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World Products aluminum block
Eagle crank - 4340 Material, Part number 444242507100
Eagle H-Beam Rods with L19 Bolts - Part # CRS7100C3DL19
Arias Pistons - 4.500 Bore, 1.480 Compression Ht., .990 wristpins, 8 : 1 Compression Ratio w/ 170cc Heads
Stage V Aluminum Big Valve Heads
Stage V Rocker arms
Dyers 8-71 blower, polished
Dual Holley carbs
Comp Cams Hemi hydraulic roller 258/266
Comp Cams 8921 hydraulic roller lifters
Milidon oil pan
Melling M63HV oil pump
Clevite MS-1277HG Main Bearings
Clevite CB743HXN Rod Bearings
ProSport SFI 18.1 Internally balanced Damper
SA Gear Roller Timing Chain
MSD "Ready to Run" Distributor
MSD Blaster 2 coil
MSD 31289 Plug wires
Fel Pro Head Gaskets #1104
Fel Pro Intake Gaskets #1234
Fel Pro Exhaust Gaskets #1462
Fel Pro Rear Main Seal #2947
Going to be at 950HP+. Being built out of Idaho Falls, Idaho!
BlownHemiCharger was here!!
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#1069988
09/06/11 04:05 PM
09/06/11 04:05 PM
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Finland
LUMI
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well i dont know how optimistic Koffels dyno is 
All I ask to see is the time slip. 
well this motor is not yet running in my Charger, i bought it used from Holland
and soon we have snow here so it will be next summer 
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: gregsdart]
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09/06/11 09:04 PM
09/06/11 09:04 PM
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440Jim
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I agree with GregsDart. That is the post I would make. Any of the various fuels can do it. I like either alky or E85 and a Ron's injection system makes the switch between the two easy. Not to mention it is a great system. I will add is that the cost of an aluminum (KB) block is not that big a deal. And the weight distribution will help your chassis setup big time. And all you need with 572 CID is 4.10 gear. 
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: tjmarcus1]
#1069994
09/06/11 10:47 PM
09/06/11 10:47 PM
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Columbus, Ohio
wheelsup68dart
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WOW! i'm thinking where is the respect for BG? he's the builder, right? the thought of this entire thread should be taken up with him..............
That is a low blow, read the beginning. Not knowing much about BB builds I am trying to learn as much as possible so I can speak intelligently about the build.
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: wheelsup68dart]
#1069995
09/06/11 11:09 PM
09/06/11 11:09 PM
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tjmarcus1
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WOW! i'm thinking where is the respect for BG? he's the builder, right? the thought of this entire thread should be taken up with him..............
That is a low blow, read the beginning. Not knowing much about BB builds I am trying to learn as much as possible so I can speak intelligently about the build.
sorry, i didn't mean it to be a low blow. but, if you trust BG, don't you think you should be talking with him?
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: tjmarcus1]
#1069996
09/07/11 07:58 AM
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Lehigh Acres, Florida
rickstershemi
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WOW! i'm thinking where is the respect for BG? he's the builder, right? the thought of this entire thread should be taken up with him..............
That is a low blow, read the beginning. Not knowing much about BB builds I am trying to learn as much as possible so I can speak intelligently about the build.
sorry, i didn't mean it to be a low blow. but, if you trust BG, don't you think you should be talking with him?
How about a li'l respect for Lonnie wanting to educate himself on Big Blocks before he talks to his builder.....I guess at least most on here understand his reason for this thread
Best of luck with it Lonnie
Rickster
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: rickstershemi]
#1069997
09/07/11 09:28 AM
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WOW! i'm thinking where is the respect for BG? he's the builder, right? the thought of this entire thread should be taken up with him..............
That is a low blow, read the beginning. Not knowing much about BB builds I am trying to learn as much as possible so I can speak intelligently about the build.
sorry, i didn't mean it to be a low blow. but, if you trust BG, don't you think you should be talking with him?
How about a li'l respect for Lonnie wanting to educate himself on Big Blocks before he talks to his builder.....I guess at least most on here understand his reason for this thread
Best of luck with it Lonnie
Rickster
I know that Lonnie (as well as most of us) has the utmost respect for Bob George and his abilities. I won't bash anyone for educating themselves before making what is a very large investment.
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: rickstershemi]
#1069998
09/07/11 09:31 AM
09/07/11 09:31 AM
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Eighty Four, PA
B G Racing
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No disrespect taken from Lonnies' post,he is asking for thoughts and opinions to educate himself on what others have done.As with Fred and others,we can discuss the build and options and the end result is that I will know what the racer wants and how to deliver them a engine or car that they want and will be happy with.It is better to have a relationship and have the owner involved from the start,then there are no surprises and everyones expectations are understood and accomplished. Take Donny's blowen Hemi for example,The project started with a lot of information and fact finding and developing what would work and what was BS.We were told by many that we were starting with all the wrong parts and need many updates to stuff we had.After weeding through all the BS we found we had made the right choises and listened to the right people and the project came together. We have a lot of people to thank for their imput,The folks at Indy for the engine and blower as well as the Lencodrive,many of the racers running menthonal blower cars and Mike Kosky(Top Alcohol Dragster)who helped setup and tune the injection and school us on this new combo. It never hurts to kick ideas around as long as in the end you come up with a good solid game plan and excute that plan to a successful conclusion. There is and always be some good information garnered on this website,you just have to wade through some crap and sort it out and not be discuraged buy some of the remarks. That BGR built Lonnie's chassis and small block to his satisfaction,only reminds me that originally I wanted to put in a BB 499" and Lonnie's wish was to stay SB now maybe I get my wish. Please remember this OP was Lonnie's asking for thoughts and not about BGR.  Respectfully Bob
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Re: Build me 850 HP in most economical package
[Re: 408strokerdart]
#1070000
09/07/11 09:49 AM
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Ohio
Chad Bittle
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I think a Koleno low deck block at about 540" would fit the bill nicely at your race weight. To much torque might be a bad thing. All you would need is enough cyl head to support about 1.6 hp/ci. Easily done with a B1 original or even an Indy 440-1 head. Do yourself a favor and go to a terminator on alky and your car will be deadly with the glide. With your command of the tree, I will follow you around with the wheelbarrow to help haul the cash.
I don't think alcohol would be good for lonnie....car will never be warm in time since he's usually running back from either sportsman, pro, no box, big wheel class, foot race event or tryin to remember where he put his dads tools. 
Oh and Lonnie, we knew this day was coming, haha. Good luck with your new build.
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and limit yourself to 850 horse. In a light car as you describe a big cube, mother torque big block can be tougher to hook consistently than a spooled small block.
