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Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: roadhazard] #1067172
09/03/11 08:54 AM
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Well, I tracked down a REAL , new MSD 6AL today and bought it. So now we'll see how e-bay performs with dispute resolution. "Chris" , (seller), wants to know how I am sure the unit is fake, and is disputing my claim. I referred him to MSD and indicated that they can verify the couterfeit and they would like to know more about him and his merchandise. I have not heard back from him since.

Scott





Can you post a link to the "Seller" in question
and the serial # that's on ALL the counterfit MSD units




I would recommend avoiding any 6AL with serial number 682013. I left some pretty negative feedback for the seller, here is his latest response:

"Hi,what you do is in normal procedure,but if you are a good person you will not do so in the situation that we still in good talking,yes,yes that you give me bad feedback and give the terrible comment,you know what happen after it??many of my buyer email to complain for it,you throw my business to floor so quick!!why you not think that I am also the victim,I bought these in huge money,I also very want to know why they are fake?(if you are right)

now I am killed by you,even I mail to MSD guy,what help to my ebay account?I very want to know what advantage you can get from this??if all the buyers don't return the item to me first,and just ask refund first,you can confirm that after all refund,I can get all items returned???you can guarantee me????you are the justicer or Ebay?let ebay tell you how to do!!!!

big nightmare!!!


- buczynsk31"

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Scott58] #1067173
09/03/11 09:10 AM
09/03/11 09:10 AM
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Blue Ridge, VA
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There has been a guy locally selling 6AL's dirt cheap out of the box, now I know how he's doing it. I'm curious to get a look at one of his and check the serial number.

Mike Gray


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Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Sinitro] #1067174
09/03/11 09:40 AM
09/03/11 09:40 AM
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Lehigh Acres, Florida
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Why buy a knock-off box, when you can get a complete distributor including the module inside..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Procomp-7...f1#ht_556wt_941

Next they took the electronic insides and put it in box..
Total low quality junk!!!
Stay far & kleer..

Just my $0.02..




We have that Procomp Dizzy in my Son's truck 360....It's fine for an everyday driver.....but I wouldn't recommend one for a race application.....IMO the quality sucks, but hey it's cheap....you get what you pay for......well at least most of the time

Rickster

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: rickstershemi] #1067175
09/03/11 09:56 AM
09/03/11 09:56 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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I learned very quickly in Afghanistan...when it comes to copyright...nothing is sacred. you name it, they had it, cheaper, and fake.

want a $5,000 rolex? $20. (I bought a fake Britling because I liked how it looked, but I knew it was a fake.) want the latest movie to hit the theaters? $1. (just ignore the person 2 rows up getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle, and the mono-channel audio from the cheap Chinese camcorder used to video tape said movie)


as for the MSD boxes, they've proven to be more reliable than the orange boxes to me. just don't get them wet!


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Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: POS Dakota] #1067176
09/03/11 10:22 AM
09/03/11 10:22 AM
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What it should look like.








Ahhh!....no wonder, so much crap in there, that's why they .... Might- Sputter & Die

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Scott58] #1067177
09/03/11 10:46 AM
09/03/11 10:46 AM
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New Lenox IL
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He writes like the guys/gals that send you phishing notices about the lotter you won in England.
Gee wiz I have never been to England or played the lottery there, but I won!!!!
I better send them $$$$ right away so I can collect my winnings.

I was waiting for the product description, "it spark you LONG time"
Then he tries to make you look like the bad guy for calling him out.
What a MAROON Don

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Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Scott58] #1067178
09/03/11 12:58 PM
09/03/11 12:58 PM
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
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Well, I tracked down a REAL , new MSD 6AL today and bought it. So now we'll see how e-bay performs with dispute resolution. "Chris" , (seller), wants to know how I am sure the unit is fake, and is disputing my claim. I referred him to MSD and indicated that they can verify the couterfeit and they would like to know more about him and his merchandise. I have not heard back from him since.

Scott





Can you post a link to the "Seller" in question
and the serial # that's on ALL the counterfit MSD units




I would recommend avoiding any 6AL with serial number 682013. I left some pretty negative feedback for the seller, here is his latest response:

"Hi,what you do is in normal procedure,but if you are a good person you will not do so in the situation that we still in good talking,yes,yes that you give me bad feedback and give the terrible comment,you know what happen after it??many of my buyer email to complain for it,you throw my business to floor so quick!!why you not think that I am also the victim,I bought these in huge money,I also very want to know why they are fake?(if you are right)

now I am killed by you,even I mail to MSD guy,what help to my ebay account?I very want to know what advantage you can get from this??if all the buyers don't return the item to me first,and just ask refund first,you can confirm that after all refund,I can get all items returned???you can guarantee me????you are the justicer or Ebay?let ebay tell you how to do!!!!

big nightmare!!!


- buczynsk31"




Sure "talks" funny for someone from Texas.

Kevin

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Twostick] #1067179
09/03/11 01:02 PM
09/03/11 01:02 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
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So are the cases and cardboard boxes themselves fake too? Seems like a lot of trouble to manufacture a counterfeit case just to stuff it with inferior crap.

But I guess thats not uncommon these days....

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1067180
09/06/11 10:13 AM
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Indiana
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Link to the feedback if anyone is curious:
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=buczynsk31

Now that they've been discovered, I would bet that phase 2 is cloned 'accurate' internals and updated serial# stickers.

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Scott58] #1067181
09/06/11 12:39 PM
09/06/11 12:39 PM
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Long Beach, CA
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For what its worth, I bought my first 6A in 1977, and its still going strong in my street car.


8.30's @3400 lbs
Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Fury Fan] #1067182
09/06/11 01:10 PM
09/06/11 01:10 PM
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San Angelo, Texas, U.S.A.
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Link to the feedback if anyone is curious:
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=buczynsk31

Now that they've been discovered, I would bet that phase 2 is cloned 'accurate' internals and updated serial# stickers.



"befoul!kill my good business?just use your bought,any problem get double refund!"
Yeah, he does have a rather odd Texas accent. Maybe one of those crazy East Texans.


"When I'm in a slump, I comfort myself by saying if I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, they must be believing in me. And if they believe in me, then I can believe in me." - Mookie Wilson
Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Plumb Wired] #1067183
09/22/11 06:21 PM
09/22/11 06:21 PM
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well, since I don't want to 'help the counterfeiters' I deleted my posts about what to look for on a fake MSD box.

Ask JohnRR if you need to know. I'm sure he'll help you...

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Thirdyfivepickup] #1067184
09/22/11 07:00 PM
09/22/11 07:00 PM
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A Banana Republic near you.
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Good to know, and the counterfeiters thank you so they can now make their fakes better .

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: JohnRR] #1067185
09/22/11 09:08 PM
09/22/11 09:08 PM
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NY,Poughkeepsie
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Mine is over 10yrs old ..still works ,Also the local Advanceauto parts
has 2 or 3 on the shelf for 199$ Been sitting there for-for ever.

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Sinitro] #1067186
09/22/11 09:20 PM
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Just ask the folks at ICH what the Chinese have done with their alum. head designs. Russ says they are a perfect reproduction.

If this country doesn't do something soon our home baked apple pie will be coming from China.

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1067187
09/22/11 09:36 PM
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"befoul!kill my good business?just use your bought,any problem get double refund!" AND some pork fried rice, with soy sauce.... (You know what some soy sauce is made from....human hair)

Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: quick77rt ] #1067188
09/26/11 12:56 AM
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pacific northwest
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dont really like knock offs but this guy does


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Re: Counterfeit 440source Warning!! [Re: Stroker Scamp] #1067189
09/26/11 02:44 PM
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land of 10,000______'s
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So what about all the ignition boxes sold by
(440source) that looked like MSD boxes. I see they
still sell the so called PRO BILLET dist. Still
all made in ...China?
Just like the good ole rods everyone likes.
All China stuff is junk, BUT! 440 SOURCE has good
China parts???


Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!
Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1067190
09/26/11 03:23 PM
09/26/11 03:23 PM
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If this country doesn't do something soon our home baked apple pie will be coming from China.




Just like those US Flag lapel pins a certain political party used to wear to prove they were more patriotic than anybody else, until it was pointed out they were made in China.

END "Free" Trade, where we send them jobs and they send us garbage, mostly under contract with the biggest US corporations. It was corporate America that changed all the rules to make this possible and those same people who're doing everything they can to prevent reform.


Re: Counterfeit MSD 6AL's! Warning!! [Re: rickstershemi] #1067191
09/27/11 04:23 PM
09/27/11 04:23 PM
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Why buy a knock-off box, when you can get a complete distributor including the module inside..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Procomp-7...f1#ht_556wt_941

Next they took the electronic insides and put it in box..
Total low quality junk!!!
Stay far & kleer..

Just my $0.02..




We have that Procomp Dizzy in my Son's truck 360....It's fine for an everyday driver.....but I wouldn't recommend one for a race application.....IMO the quality sucks, but hey it's cheap....you get what you pay for......well at least most of the time

Rickster




My only comments are..
1. Where do you get a new cap or rotor or pickup when it blows out on a Sunday cruise.
2. Be sure to have your AAA and towing benefits up to date, you will need it.

As pappy always said..
If its too cheap, it is a POS..

Just my $0.02..

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