Re: numbers matching and value question R/T Challenger
[Re: MrNormsTA]
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08/18/08 04:15 PM
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BigMoneyLewis
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Let's put a little twist on this . Lets say you have a T/A Challenger and the motor is long gone. It's time to find an engine for the car, and you are doing a correct resto. Do you try to find a T/A block , or will a 73 cast crank 340 do the trick ? Why bother trying to find a real T/A motor? After all, the car will never be numbers-matching. Nobody will ever crawl under the car and look at the side of the block, or make a casual glance at the numbers stamped on the front below the head .So why bother finding a correct block ?Part of the answer is so it will look correct, IF anyone ever looks at the side of the block, or the finish pad etc. It's the next best thing to having the original engine, because it is the exact same type, from the same plant, dated probably just a few days from yours would have been . So now your T/A has the original engine from an AAR built 3 weeks before your car was built. OR , you Could have a 340 from a 73 Dart Sport, where the casting dates, finish sates, etc. are not what they should be. The same holds true for your 1970 Challenger R/T 440 six pack. To do a correct resto,you want the car to look correct. Looking correct for the exhaust manifolds means they have the correct casting # and date. Looking correct for the engine block means it has the correct casting numbers, and casting, final assembly date . The block is no different than any other componant when it comes to looking correct, and casting numbers, dates, etc. are all a part of looking correct , because those are things you can see , plain as day, if you look in the right place. If I were restoring a 70 Challenger R/T V code car, I would much rather use an engine from a U-code Challenger built 4 weeks from my car, than a 74 U code Charger . That's how I see it . Greg Wards Classic Car Radio Repair Specializing in restoration and sales of Mopar A B E body radios We can restore YOUR radio usually in less than 7 days Visit our NEW website.. http://www.wardsclassiccarradiorepair.comgregward@mchsi.comphone 256-852-0955
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Re: numbers matching and value question R/T Challenger
[Re: Shatar4]
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08/18/08 05:32 PM
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a12superbee
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The t/a block is a unique situation. If NOM costs 20%, a 'date correct' might only lose 15%? It's still NOM.
I can't afford this.
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Re: numbers matching and value question R/T Challenger
[Re: BigMoneyLewis]
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08/18/08 06:54 PM
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Morty426
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Quote:
Let's put a little twist on this . Lets say you have a T/A Challenger and the motor is long gone. It's time to find an engine for the car, and you are doing a correct resto. Do you try to find a T/A block , or will a 73 cast crank 340 do the trick ? Why bother trying to find a real T/A motor? After all, the car will never be numbers-matching. Nobody will ever crawl under the car and look at the side of the block, or make a casual glance at the numbers stamped on the front below the head .So why bother finding a correct block ?Part of the answer is so it will look correct, IF anyone ever looks at the side of the block, or the finish pad etc. It's the next best thing to having the original engine, because it is the exact same type, from the same plant, dated probably just a few days from yours would have been . So now your T/A has the original engine from an AAR built 3 weeks before your car was built. OR , you Could have a 340 from a 73 Dart Sport, where the casting dates, finish sates, etc. are not what they should be. The same holds true for your 1970 Challenger R/T 440 six pack. To do a correct resto,you want the car to look correct. Looking correct for the exhaust manifolds means they have the correct casting # and date. Looking correct for the engine block means it has the correct casting numbers, and casting, final assembly date . The block is no different than any other componant when it comes to looking correct, and casting numbers, dates, etc. are all a part of looking correct , because those are things you can see , plain as day, if you look in the right place. If I were restoring a 70 Challenger R/T V code car, I would much rather use an engine from a U-code Challenger built 4 weeks from my car, than a 74 U code Charger . That's how I see it .
Greg
Agree 100%
I have a Plum Crazy V Code automatic and even though I still have the original motor, my transmission was sent to Aamco hell a long time ago. I'll be using a "U" code 70 automatic unless I can find a V code trans. The right part is still the right part when it comes to restoration.
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Re: numbers matching and value question R/T Challenger
[Re: THESHAKERPROJECT]
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08/19/08 10:53 PM
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Grizzly
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I agree with Greg. Now, if the numbers are missing from any part of the body....................
Mo' Farts
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