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Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 1badx] #1057409 02/06/12 08:26 PM 02/06/12 08:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: How hard would it be to modify the OEM throttle body to be cable driven? That certainly is an option and I have seen engine dyno shops do this. With option #2 that would be up to the installer of the system. I do have a 5.7 OEM throttle body for sale for $50 if you want to buy it, crack it open and give it a try? Hot Rod did this about 4 yrs ago with a factory crate engine with factory ECM. They poped open the cover and mig welded the Dyno throttle to it. They didnt seem to have any problems but it is Hot Rod. U have a PM

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: wldtm] #1057410 02/06/12 09:24 PM 02/06/12 09:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa 1badx mopar
1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Quote: Chrysler sells their connectors in a pigtail form, currently not just the connector and terminals. This is one reason Painless said they were not interested in doing an factory efi swap. Thanks for that info. Anybody have a connection at Chrysler I can contact for good prices on the pigtails?

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 1badx] #1057411 02/06/12 10:10 PM 02/06/12 10:10 PM
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jg309 enthusiast J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 288 IL. Jerseyville	rember guys ritter will have some of his new drag pack intakes @ the indy show in march

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jg309] #1057412 02/07/12 01:36 AM 02/07/12 01:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 361 Canada onig enthusiast
onig enthusiast Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 361 Canada	While reading this thread I was wondering if anybody had looked into the megasquirt controller to do the job. Just a thought. 69 Dart

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 1badx] #1057413 02/07/12 01:00 PM 02/07/12 01:00 PM
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2734bbl member 2 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 155 Tulsa oklahoma USA	I've got 2 complete 05 5.7 cores, both with rod knock. I'm just sponging up info to put one together. My plan is to go with a basically stock motor first time around and get the car sorted out then go big later.

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 2734bbl] #1057414 02/07/12 07:58 PM 02/07/12 07:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa 1badx mopar
1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Quote: I've got 2 complete 05 5.7 cores, both with rod knock. I'm just sponging up info to put one together. My plan is to go with a basically stock motor first time around and get the car sorted out then go big later. It really depends on what level of labor you are willing to put in to the build. If you can handle some basic cylinder head porting do a little bit of research and grab a die grinder and some bits and rolls. You can make the 5.7 heads flow almost as much as stock 6.1's. If you haven't ported heads before then just buy a set of either 6.1's (they may be pricey) or a set of Apache's ($650 last time I checked). I can make some cam recommendations as well depending on your requirements. Order a set of TTI headers, decide if your going carb or fuel injection and finish the build from there. 5.7's are beastly engines! BTW - I have spare rods, pistons and cranks for sale in the classifieds if you want to use stock rotating parts. Last edited by 1badx; 02/07/12 07:59 PM.

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: onig] #1057415 02/07/12 08:11 PM 02/07/12 08:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 344 Burlington, Ontario Canada Dave_S enthusiast
Dave_S enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 344 Burlington, Ontario Canada	I've got a 5.7 Turbo motor in the works. Will be MegaSquirted...just like my 440 was. Dave Stillie '73 Swinger 5.7 Hemi, 88mm turbo, powerglide, cal-tracs & 8 3/4 Mega-Squirt EFI [email]8.93@149 [/email]

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: Dave_S] #1057416 02/07/12 08:31 PM 02/07/12 08:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa 1badx mopar
1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Quote: I've got a 5.7 Turbo motor in the works. Will be MegaSquirted...just like my 440 was. That makes two of us! (and I suspect there are more similar combo's lurking out there ) 5.7, 6.1 crank, forged rods and pistons, 6.1 CNC heads, 6.1 intake and a rear mount PT94 running a MS3. Last edited by 1badx; 02/07/12 08:32 PM.

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 1badx] #1057417 02/07/12 08:44 PM 02/07/12 08:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 344 Burlington, Ontario Canada Dave_S enthusiast
Dave_S enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 344 Burlington, Ontario Canada	Is yours going into the GTX? Will it be street driven?...what comp.ratio you go with? Mine will go into the Dart, strip only with a front mounted 88 Dave Stillie '73 Swinger 5.7 Hemi, 88mm turbo, powerglide, cal-tracs & 8 3/4 Mega-Squirt EFI [email]8.93@149 [/email]

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: Dave_S] #1057418 02/07/12 08:52 PM 02/07/12 08:52 PM
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1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Quote: Is yours going into the GTX? Will it be street driven?...what comp.ratio you go with? Mine will go into the Dart, strip only with a front mounted 88 Yes, it's going in the GTX. It will be primarily a street driven/street class raced vehicle (like it is now). There is a cool event in the area called "The Flashlight Drags" that we sponsor. They advertise it as "Street racing without the jail time " To be competitive in the "Big Dawg" class you need to be able to run high 8's or low 9's in street trim in the 1/4.

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: 1badx] #1057419 02/07/12 09:43 PM 02/07/12 09:43 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,416 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,416 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Lets say I want to build a bracket motor out of one of these next year, where can I look at after market rods, pistons, and crank? Does anyone make an aluminum rod for them? Forged crank? Forged blower pistons? Mechanical cam? I run a nostalgia series, and been thinking of running 6-71 blown race motor on E85 with mechanical injection. All the ads I look at say crank rods and pistons, but, since hardly any specifiy forged, I assume they are cast junk...And not worth my time or money. I don't want a stock replacement time bomb either. Just looking for some links that have more info than your basic BS that I keep reading over and over....And why do I need a reluctor wheel on the crank, I am thinking I don't, but figured I would ask? Last edited by Dragula; 02/07/12 09:55 PM. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: Dragula] #1057420 02/07/12 11:08 PM 02/07/12 11:08 PM
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1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	Quote: Lets say I want to build a bracket motor out of one of these next year, where can I look at after market rods, pistons, and crank? Does anyone make an aluminum rod for them? Forged crank? Forged blower pistons? Mechanical cam? I run a nostalgia series, and been thinking of running 6-71 blown race motor on E85 with mechanical injection. All the ads I look at say crank rods and pistons, but, since hardly any specifiy forged, I assume they are cast junk...And not worth my time or money. I don't want a stock replacement time bomb either. Just looking for some links that have more info than your basic BS that I keep reading over and over....And why do I need a reluctor wheel on the crank, I am thinking I don't, but figured I would ask? I am a dealer for PWR racing engines who specialize in the Gen III Hemi's. I can get you either stock 6.1 forged, Callies, Manley or SCAT cranks as well as rods and pistons. Yes, you can get forced induction pistons or a complete rotating assembly in all the common strokes. I guess you can make your own crank trigger but why?

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine DELETED [Re: 1badx] #1057421 02/08/12 08:03 AM 02/08/12 08:03 AM
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jg309 enthusiast J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 288 IL. Jerseyville	Post deleted by jg309

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jg309] #1057422 02/22/12 08:47 PM 02/22/12 08:47 PM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	In keeping with this thread, found out the Fiat WAS selling a complete 6.4 PRODUCTION HEMI 5037400AA which was superseded by 5037400AF. Retails for 6237.00 But has a NS5 code attached to it Man wish I would of known this sooner.Matt

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: MattW] #1057423 02/22/12 08:59 PM 02/22/12 08:59 PM
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jg309 enthusiast J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 288 IL. Jerseyville	talked to kent a while a go said he thought he'd have 2-3 intakes for the indy show, so if interested look him up at the show,don't know were he'll be russ took his usual spot away from him,he also told me he's going to have one of his new alum. small blocks there allso,thats about it later my freinds

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: jg309] #1057424 02/22/12 09:14 PM 02/22/12 09:14 PM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Aluminum LA or G3 blocks

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: MattW] #1057425 02/22/12 11:04 PM 02/22/12 11:04 PM
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cagebob1 enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 306 Mesa, AZ	NS5 ?? OK, I'll bite...for those of us (maybe just me)that don't know, what exactly does this mean? I know the NS is not sold/serviced

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: cagebob1] #1057426 02/23/12 09:24 AM 02/23/12 09:24 AM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: NS5 ?? OK, I'll bite...for those of us (maybe just me)that don't know, what exactly does this mean? I know the NS is not sold/serviced I don't know thought somebody would?

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: MattW] #1057427 02/23/12 05:57 PM 02/23/12 05:57 PM
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ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,907 S.E. Michigan	NS5 means "Serviced In Component Parts" So, production/service doesn't want to sell it. And that means MP needs to try harder to sell it! Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: Design me a late model Hemi bracket engine [Re: ZIPPY] #1057428 02/23/12 07:08 PM 02/23/12 07:08 PM
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jg309 enthusiast J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 288 IL. Jerseyville	matt its a la block

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