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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: Irun5snd8th] #1057229
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Wondered about this,,,,planning on a belt driven 3 stage pump on my build....power steering/fuel/engine oil.


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: CHAPPER] #1057230
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Good thought since the similarity to LS engines is so great.

My question is: Assuming that were true, then why would the middle rods have the issue?

Wouldn't a cavitation issue show up either in the main bearings, or the rods furthest from the oil pump first?

Not trying to start anything, but it's been explained/described to me the windowed examples usually have mains still in good condition, and the remaining rods are still good as well, but the center rods wanted to get out of the block. At least that's where the mystery originated on my end.


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: ZIPPY] #1057231
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Good thought since the similarity to LS engines is so great.

My question is: Assuming that were true, then why would the middle rods have the issue?

Wouldn't a cavitation issue show up either in the main bearings, or the rods furthest from the oil pump first?

Not trying to start anything, but it's been explained/described to me the windowed examples usually have mains still in good condition, and the remaining rods are still good as well, but the center rods wanted to get out of the block. At least that's where the mystery originated on my end.




Think of the LA engine like I previous stated but I would like to know "At what RPM"
I don't know if I am right but it make sense

Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: Irun5snd8th] #1057232
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So how is the build coming along?



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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: MattW] #1057233
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sixpackgut.....Post up the pic's of your header collectors


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: hemidup] #1057234
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057235
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Thanks Ray. So does anyone see what I'm seeing? I brought this up with Kevin Helms once I looked at his header design on Teuton's windowed 6.1 block at the Nat's.


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: hemidup] #1057236
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R U saying that the header design is responsible for the widowed 6.1 block?

Or R U saying U don't like the design of the header.

Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: hemidup] #1057237
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Thanks Ray. So does anyone see what I'm seeing? I brought this up with Kevin Helms once I looked at his header design on Teuton's windowed 6.1 block at the Nat's.




No, but I'm hoping you'll tell us what it is you see.

Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: STEFF] #1057238
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Jerry? please let us know what your seeing


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: hemidup] #1057239
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I will take a WAG. Is that an O2 sensor bung on the side? It does not seem like it would get as good of a read on the outside two pipes. In fact, flow is almost directed past it on the outside - it is too close to the merge point?

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The response I got was to main bearing issues rather than the rods being tossed.


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: Bill_T] #1057241
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I will take a WAG. Is that an O2 sensor bung on the side? It does not seem like it would get as good of a read on the outside two pipes. In fact, flow is almost directed past it on the outside - it is too close to the merge point?




Thank you very much for your observation and reply. Whats a WAG?


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057242
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Jerry? please let us know what your seeing




Give me a call at the shop. Probably sometime next week. I've been at the hospital with my wife for the past week. Since your not building a SE or SS motor, I'll talk to you about my theories.


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: hemidup] #1057243
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i need help. Again!

so the oil filter wont screw off so i guess i need to run a relocation kit, or jack up the motor every time i change the oil

so the question is, what is the thread size on the hemi engines? does anyone recommend a good value on a oil filter reloction kit?


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057244
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Do you have the filter adapter that points the filter to the front,,or no adapter that puts the filter straight down?? The thread on the block, without the adapter, is 18mmx1.5.


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Do you have the filter adapter that points the filter to the front,,or no adapter that puts the filter straight down?? The thread on the block, without the adapter, is 18mmx1.5.




do those adapters come on new cars? i have the filter pointing straight down


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057246
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The core engine I am working with, came out of an '06 truck...it had an adapter that pointed the filter toward the front. I also feel that the filter area may be of some concern contributing to the afore mentioned bearing problems...LOTS of small passages and restrictive angles involved in the castings. I am eliminating these with an external oil pump system that will feed into the hole right above the filter..with some minor mods to the original feed hole in the block, and a remote filter set-up.


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The core engine I am working with, came out of an '06 truck...it had an adapter that pointed the filter toward the front. I also feel that the filter area may be of some concern contributing to the afore mentioned bearing problems...LOTS of small passages and restrictive angles involved in the castings. I am eliminating these with an external oil pump system that will feed into the hole right above the filter..with some minor mods to the original feed hole in the block, and a remote filter set-up.




i have an 06 truck 5.7 out in the shop that doesnt have that adapter. also, i screwed one of my big block oil filters on the 5.7 so i dont think its an 18mm thread but maybe i'm wrong


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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine [Re: sixpackgut] #1057248
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looks like this.

use to be about 30$.

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