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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: STEFF]
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08/23/11 08:29 PM
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Everybody wines about the cost of the DP intake. OK, it's 3 times the cost of a mass produced intake, but so what??? If $600 or so bucks extra is a make or break for an engine build? you have no business building the motor in the first place.
Did you ever see what INDY charges for the Big Block Bath Intake or Tunnel Ram for Predator Heads? I consider this intake in the same caliber. It's a high end limited demand intake....bottom line. Those type of parts are always more expensive.
Plus, do you really think Chrysler Coporate really cares about cost savings for such a part of low importance to their grand plan?
Thanks for your reply,,,,I believe you mean..everybody WHINES (not 'wines'...wine is what you drink when you are happy and possibly celebrating a joyous event or happening)...I am NOT whining about the cost,,ready to buy,,CAN'T FIND ONE AVAILABLE,,,as for "no business building it in the first place"...engine building is my business,,,just trying to find where the parts are available. Thuck you very much.
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: CHAPPER]
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08/23/11 08:40 PM
08/23/11 08:40 PM
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Smyrna, South Carolina
STEFF
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Everybody wines about the cost of the DP intake. OK, it's 3 times the cost of a mass produced intake, but so what??? If $600 or so bucks extra is a make or break for an engine build? you have no business building the motor in the first place.
Did you ever see what INDY charges for the Big Block Bath Intake or Tunnel Ram for Predator Heads? I consider this intake in the same caliber. It's a high end limited demand intake....bottom line. Those type of parts are always more expensive.
Plus, do you really think Chrysler Coporate really cares about cost savings for such a part of low importance to their grand plan?
Thanks for your reply,,,,I believe you mean..everybody WHINES (not 'wines'...wine is what you drink when you are happy and possibly celebrating a joyous event or happening)...I am NOT whining about the cost,,ready to buy,,CAN'T FIND ONE AVAILABLE,,,as for "no business building it in the first place"...engine building is my business,,,just trying to find where the parts are available. Thuck you very much.
Not bagging on you Chapper. My appologies. It seems every Gen 3 Hemi post has complaints about the DP intake cost & it's played. It is what it is & that's that. I wish I knew where there were some to help you. I got mine from Indy as well.
Good catch on the "wine vs. whine. I pride myself on correct spelling & that one got past me. LOL!!
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: STEFF]
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08/23/11 09:30 PM
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Ontario Canada
MattW
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Everybody wines about the cost of the DP intake. OK, it's 3 times the cost of a mass produced intake, but so what??? If $600 or so bucks extra is a make or break for an engine build? you have no business building the motor in the first place.
Did you ever see what INDY charges for the Big Block Bath Intake or Tunnel Ram for Predator Heads? I consider this intake in the same caliber. It's a high end limited demand intake....bottom line. Those type of parts are always more expensive.
Plus, do you really think Chrysler Coporate really cares about cost savings for such a part of low importance to their grand plan?
Thanks for your reply,,,,I believe you mean..everybody WHINES (not 'wines'...wine is what you drink when you are happy and possibly celebrating a joyous event or happening)...I am NOT whining about the cost,,ready to buy,,CAN'T FIND ONE AVAILABLE,,,as for "no business building it in the first place"...engine building is my business,,,just trying to find where the parts are available. Thuck you very much.
Not bagging on you Chapper. My appologies. It seems every Gen 3 Hemi post has complaints about the DP intake cost & it's played. It is what it is & that's that. I wish I knew where there were some to help you. I got mine from Indy as well.
Good catch on the "wine vs. whine. I pride myself on correct spelling & that one got past me. LOL!!
I agree with you is is what it is. BUT if there is no more intakes available that sucks!!!
I leaning towards the DP intake because of it versatility carb or EFI.
But finding one could be a problem. 
Hope Fiat listen to ZIPPY and cast them with the other intake and gets them down to 500.00- 600.00.
Sell more at a reduce rate make the same on intake= more people build hemis = more other products of theirs sold.
Where to find intake???
Matt
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: STEFF]
#1056977
08/23/11 11:18 PM
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Dayton, Ohio
wldtm
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Word is an early 03-04 motor sonic checks alot better than later 5.7 hemis. Maybe someone can confirm that has built several of these.
Justin
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: STEFF]
#1056978
08/23/11 11:41 PM
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lino lakes,MN
onebaddakota
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That intake is soo darn sexy. I don't care if I lost 10hp, I'd still run it.
10.56 at 125.6, with a 1.43 60 ft.
E85, Hyd. Roller 410 magnum,full exhaust, 3500 race weight.
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: wldtm]
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08/23/11 11:43 PM
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Word is an early 03-04 motor sonic checks alot better than later 5.7 hemis. Maybe someone can confirm that has built several of these.
Justin
Actually if you can find a rare 02 5.7 Hemi block, it'll sonic check the highest numbers. I have a dozen 5.7 bare blocks that are between 2002 and 2005 years. The 2003-2005 check about the same. Very impressed.
Last edited by hemidup; 08/23/11 11:45 PM.
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: hemidup]
#1056981
08/23/11 11:51 PM
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wldtm
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Cast in 02 for 03??? What would they have came in, the Ram?
thanks!
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: 340RICK]
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09/01/11 08:48 AM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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As far as the ignition goes forget the dist i dont know why you would want to go that route prolly would end up costin more.
The engine masters engine was distributer driven....If you know why, please do tell.
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: Dragula]
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09/01/11 09:29 AM
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S.E. Michigan
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As far as the ignition goes forget the dist i dont know why you would want to go that route prolly would end up costin more.
The engine masters engine was distributer driven....If you know why, please do tell.
Simplicity, ability to drive CD boxes that folks already have, or ability to use hotter boxes than a 6 series, things like that.
There's no special 7 series box for a gen 3....for that, it will have to be converted to a distributor.
For street guys, a distributor conversion would mean the ability to use the cheap OEM style ecus, chrome boxes and stuff like that, if they want to.
A distributor does cost more than the Hemi 6+wiring harness. There's no way around it....
Rich H.
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: ZIPPY]
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09/01/11 10:30 AM
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So that brings to light an interesting question. Is the MSD deal enough ignition for a 650-700 horse engine?
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Re: Design me a 3G Hemi bracket engine
[Re: Irun5snd8th]
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09/01/11 12:04 PM
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S.E. Michigan
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It should be enough  ...but just like with the older engines, racers will want to use race CD boxes. Plenty of 400hp stockers out there use a 7 series, and who can blame them "it's a race car...use a race box", etc. In the future there is supposed to be a distributor setup coming, which will use a new USA-cast timing cover and front mounted distributor. It will not be cheap because there is tooling involved, and will likely end up costing more than the MSD, but I think it will make life easier.....
Rich H.
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