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Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: EvilB1Dart] #1049493
08/09/11 09:57 AM
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I would look at proformance in Illinois for an option on the t400. Hutch recommended him to me as getting exports out of Canada is expensive right now and he is a racer and will do anything for a racer.

www.fastesttransmissions.com

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: joshking440] #1049494
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I would look at proformance in Illinois for an option on the t400. Hutch recommended him to me as getting exports out of Canada is expensive right now and he is a racer and will do anything for a racer.

www.fastesttransmissions.com




Yep, Dave build's some nice stuff too! Has built many TH400's and Glide's for friends of mine. Real good dude.....


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Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: EvilB1Dart] #1049495
08/09/11 10:24 AM
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no problems with my th-400. good to see you back on here wes

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Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: joshking440] #1049496
08/09/11 10:42 AM
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I had a A&A 727 in my 3700lb, 3.50 geared turbo car. I payed about $4500 for it. The trans was built with the good input and output shafts, billet drum, 5 gear steel front planet etc.... The car was regularly street driven and beat on constantly. 7 years and hundreds of passes of low 9s/ a few high 8s. Had to have it fixed once. I exploded the dif and twisted up the driveshaft. That bent the output shaft housing and rear bearing retainer ring in the trans. Cant really blame the trans for that.
At that output level I wouldnt have any issue with running a 727, especially with a 4.10 gear, as long as you get good shafts. I definitely would not have a trans built by someone with no confidence in it though. Go to A&A you wont be disappointed.


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Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: JohnRR] #1049497
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Not the answer the OP is probably looking for, but at that level of power, 900 ft/lbs, ditch the 727 grenade and move to a PowerGlide or prepped Turbo 400.

At 900 ft/lbs you should be able to accelerate just fine without the added gear reduction.




You don't think a powerglide or a turbo 400 won't blow up ?

Cummins powered rams putting out over 1500 ft/lbs use a 727 based OD trans and don't blow up when built properly .




My 3000 pound Outlaw car makes twice that much torque and our Mike's glide has never broken.

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: TRENDZ] #1049498
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Wonder what Dave Smith's opinion of this would be?

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: BobR] #1049499
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Not the answer the OP is probably looking for, but at that level of power, 900 ft/lbs, ditch the 727 grenade and move to a PowerGlide or prepped Turbo 400.

At 900 ft/lbs you should be able to accelerate just fine without the added gear reduction.




You don't think a powerglide or a turbo 400 won't blow up ?

Cummins powered rams putting out over 1500 ft/lbs use a 727 based OD trans and don't blow up when built properly .




My 3000 pound Outlaw car makes twice that much torque and our Mike's glide has never broken.




I left out these 1500# Cummins trucks are 4x4's that weigh in at 7000lbs.

A 727 isn't right for every application but it will handle 900#, most people go to the GM based trans more because of cost than anything else .

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: JohnRR] #1049500
08/09/11 04:40 PM
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Cummins powered rams putting out over 1500 ft/lbs use a 727 based OD trans and don't blow up when built properly .




But how often are they freshened up...just about any trans can be built to last a couple of runs/pulls.


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Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: procharged 484] #1049501
08/09/11 05:40 PM
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Not a problem to beef the trans up, but it is not cheap. You will want a billet drum for safety - Steel for street or aluminum for the strip. They also hold 5 standard thickness clutches. The aluminum front gear needs replaced with a steel gear. A manual valve body, and maybe stronger input and output shafts. Plus the more common upgrades of eagle red-line clutches, kolene steels, billet servos, ect..-

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: procharged 484] #1049502
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Thanks guys for all input

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: John_Kunkel] #1049503
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Cummins powered rams putting out over 1500 ft/lbs use a 727 based OD trans and don't blow up when built properly .




But how often are they freshened up...just about any trans can be built to last a couple of runs/pulls.




That I can't answer but I know it's more than a couple pulls/runs.

Re: 727 help with 900 # torque [Re: John_Kunkel] #1049504
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Cummins powered rams putting out over 1500 ft/lbs use a 727 based OD trans and don't blow up when built properly .




But how often are they freshened up...just about any trans can be built to last a couple of runs/pulls.




I have a Cummins at 975ft/lbs (125,OOO miles)30 pounds of boost when i leave locked in 4x4 at almost 8000lbs Trans was done at hts here in MICHIGAN. dAILY DRIVER,tow anything, They wont last to funny

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