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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046342
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If you are interested in an Ultimate converter, I have an 8" for a 727 I've tried selling
in the "Race Parts" with no takers. It may be a little loose for you now. It flashed
about 5900 behind a 13:1 340. I'll have to check my log book but, believe it has less
than 20 passes on it. PM me if so.

EDIT: 21 passes TOTAL

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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: S/ST 3040] #1046343
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Thanks for the replys. I have had Junk, cheap converters in the past (long time ago) and have been real pleased with my TA "J". Just wanted to know if there was something else better, but it works well enough now that I'm almost afraid to change it. I'd really hate to spend $900-$1200 and not see an improvement. I guess I was hopeing to hear about a new, one size fits all, magic bullet.
Thanks again,
Brian Dunnigan

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046344
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Another question to go along with this...My TA converter is a 9.5". what would a smaller 8" (or larger, 10") converter change? Reaction time, MPH or ???

Thanks,

Brian

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046345
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I picked up in all areas in my Duster with a fairly mild combo going from a J to a 8" Coan....FWIW


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046346
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Quote:

Thanks for the replys. I have had Junk, cheap converters in the past (long time ago) and have been real pleased with my TA "J". Just wanted to know if there was something else better, but it works well enough now that I'm almost afraid to change it. I'd really hate to spend $900-$1200 and not see an improvement. I guess I was hopeing to hear about a new, one size fits all, magic bullet.
Thanks again,
Brian Dunnigan




You arent far off so there isnt going to be a magic
bullet thats going to give you a 1/2 second.....
MAYBE a .1 and I doubt you would see that.... your
ET and MPH are in line SO its time to do a little
work on the engine.........JMO

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046347
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Chuck has been talking about 3 percent slip converters. Great guy to work with. Has been in the transmission biz for over 25 years.


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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046348
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This car is a true footbrake racer, running 1/8 & 1/4 mile, best time of 6.4X, 105.xx and 10.39, 127.xx.
I welcome all sugestions,

Thanks,
Brian Dunnigan





IMO, Your numbers indicate a problem on the second half track. Your only gaining 22 MPH from the 1/8 to the 1/4. You should be gaining another 24 to 26 MPH. Further your 6.45 ET 1/8th equates to around a 10.20 1/4, not a 10.39

Whats your 60ft. numbers, if they are stellar 1.35,s or so that might explain the hard first half vs the slower second. Typical, numbers for that 10.39 et would be low 1.4,s 1.41 to 1.43

Your slippage numbers dont look bad. I wouldnt consider a vert change until you can get the numbers more inline.

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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: '72CudaRacer] #1046349
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IMHO, I really think you'll have a hard time improving on what you already have.I know I wouldn't take a $9-1200 gamble.As most know when it comes to converter posts,I always will suggest Turbo Action.Our first TA 3800 was purchased in 1977 and it still works great to this day and has never been back to TA or anyone else for a freshening.I can honestly say that the converter and the Dana 60 are 2 things I never worry about in the car.I have found Turbo Action products to be very good quality and we've never had any problem with their stuff.


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We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: Chris2581] #1046350
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i worry more about consistency, than max et or mph. got a looser one coming to try out.

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: gregsdart] #1046351
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Chuck has been talking about 3 percent slip converters. Great guy to work with. Has been in the transmission biz for over 25 years.




Unless things have changed, Lenny (ultimate converters) has been Chucks "go to" guy. Chuck recommended him to me back when he was TCT.
We have a 904 Chuck built and the 727 in my car was originally out of his "shop" when it was still his house in Coon Rapids. Good guy!

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: J_BODY] #1046352
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Things haven't changed at all, Chuck and Larry at Lofgren Auto have been around the Chrysler camp for many years and some of the nicest and knowledgeable people in the business.


Lenny Croteau www.ultimateconverter.com Phone 704-892-6837 Fax 704-892-6880
Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: ultimatelenny] #1046353
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Lenny is the man

I called him and told him what I had and what I was doing.

Pulled my j converter and put his in car went from 10.28at 130mph to 9.88 at 136

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: Voluster] #1046354
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What is your combo, did you change anything else,what stall was on the J and what stall was on the ultimate.
Mick


69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: Voluster] #1046355
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Lenny is the man

I called him and told him what I had and what I was doing.

Pulled my j converter and put his in car went from 10.28at 130mph to 9.88 at 136




That just sounds like your conv was way off before...
whats the difference in RPM at the traps

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: 68roadrunner] #1046356
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i worry more about consistency, than max et or mph. got a looser one coming to try out.




Now yer thinkin!



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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: moparacer] #1046357
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i worry more about consistency, than max et or mph. got a looser one coming to try out.




Now yer thinkin!









But the OP, Brian, is looking for a improvement in ET. On anther thread, he also implied he was looking for more consistancy.

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: 68roadrunner] #1046358
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i worry more about consistency, than max et or mph. got a looser one coming to try out.




Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: Sport440] #1046359
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i worry more about consistency, than max et or mph. got a looser one coming to try out.




Now yer thinkin!









But the OP, Brian, is looking for a improvement in ET. On anther thread, he also implied he was looking for more consistancy.




A lot of times you pick up a ton of ET and get the consistency when you switch to a looser converter.

Most guys don't realize that their converter is way to tight to begin with.

You can listen to a car leave and pull through low gear and tell after the first shift if a converter is right or not.

Its the guys who want to aaagh a hum, (cough cough) slow down with a looser converter that tend to pick up the most consistency though.



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Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: deaks] #1046360
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I didn't change anything but the converter

the J converter was way to loose or slipping car hit the limiter on the big end. was an old school unit

Put lennys converter in there and it picked up in the 60 and all the way down the track

lenny said somewhere in the 3800 on the motor and 5200 on the juice. I don't know where it stalls I was to busy driving

Re: Race converter recomendations [Re: moparacer] #1046361
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Thanks for the replys and insite guys. My TA "J" converter is on the big brown truck, heading to Paul Forte (Turbo Action), to let him have a look at it. This converter has approx 800 passes on it since it was last freshened up.
The REAL problem I have been dealing with is ocasionally the air shifter would go to 2nd gear on time, but the air cylinder would keep the shifter pulled back (B & M Pro Ratchet) and I would have to "burp" the throttle to get it to release. When I would burp the throttle, the shifter would go back to center position and then immediately go to high gear. The next time it would function normally. It appears that the RPM's were not droping back far enough when it shifted to release the RPM switch. It did it so randomly that it was hard to pinpoint a pattern, but seemed to do it when it was hot, usually when going "round robin". Paul thinks that possibly the sprag in the converter is slipping when it gets hot?? We will know soon. I do know that it has cost me at least two races, one of which was the final of the mid season shoot out.
I like what I have with my Turbo Action converter, just wondering if I can improve upon it.
And if anyone thinks my car isn't consistant... lets just say my car has been called a Zerox machine more than a few times.

Thanks again,

Brian Dunnigan

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