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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045803
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love to see that car ur building,let us know how u make out at atco in sept,i'll be out there in cooler weather also

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: fishy340] #1045804
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Heads are everything. I had a well prepared set of Arringtons. Flowed around 345. The engine was only 441 CID and ran very well and even better with some juice.

Built the CFE W8 engine with the same stroke and more bore with the R3 block. First hit same tuneup in the nitrous the car hit the wheelie bars so hard you could clearly see daylight under the tires. Anyone who knows 4-links knows needed to take bite out to accomodate all the extra power. We fought through the weekend trying to tame the beast. Later went to a fogger and starting using timing to calm the car down. The biggest thing I see in the CFE W8 is you have to realize the exhaust valve is only 1.55 so you really need some extra duration to take the benefit of the huge flowing intake.

Leon


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: fishy340] #1045805
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pics from my chassis guy....

6761291-jimmydart001.JPG (532 downloads)
Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045806
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pic 2...

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045807
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Pic 3....

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045808
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where did that chin spoiler come from?

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: cold85] #1045809
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where did that chin spoiler come from?



id like to get one of these eventually...

http://spoilersbyrandy.com/dartdemon.aspx


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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: cold85] #1045810
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where did that chin spoiler come from?


I'm almost afraid to say......Camaro.

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: Adrielp] #1045811
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Also, which will make more power? Kind of curious on the differences between the two engines.


Because of the better programs available and extra material in the head, the W8 seeems to be the power champ for the "straight" heads.

The P5 head is the overall king of the smallblock.

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045812
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maybe I can help with some pics...

13* CFE W8

6761373-201003271084.jpg (1330 downloads)

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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: mafo] #1045813
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11* nickens/lump

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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: mafo] #1045814
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what you start with


-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: mafo] #1045815
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: mafo] #1045816
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what you start with


Bingo...

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045817
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Wow. Never saw them like that.
Wish I could've grabbed a pr.
Managed to get some of these that will do all I need.
Thanks for pics and info

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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: theclutcher] #1045818
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Wow. Never saw them like that.
Wish I could've grabbed a pr.
Managed to get some of these that will do all I need.
Thanks for pics and info


my friend sells all that stuff..he's got a set of w8's pm me if u want to get in touch with him...he also has w7 and w9 also..his basement is full it makes me emotional almost to see that good stuff..lol

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045819
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where did that chin spoiler come from?


I'm almost afraid to say......Camaro.




What year i like it better than the mopar one because they are short.

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: cold85] #1045820
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where did that chin spoiler come from?


I'm almost afraid to say......Camaro.




What year i like it better than the mopar one because they are short.


69' IIRC.

Mark Markow at MRC stuck it on there and I said, leave it.

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: jim sciortino] #1045821
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where did that chin spoiler come from?


I'm almost afraid to say......Camaro.




What year i like it better than the mopar one because they are short.


69' IIRC.

Mark Markow at MRC stuck it on there and I said, leave it.



I am sure this is a stupid question but what is a IIRC camaro?

Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences? [Re: cold85] #1045822
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If I Remember Correctly

Now back to W8 and W9 talk please

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