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W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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Also, which will make more power? Kind of curious on the differences between the two engines.
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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w8 heads have more meat, just more to work with when making all out heads, w9 are lightweight castings I guess w8 s make more power if you know what you are doing 
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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w8's are more exotic $ there basicly chunks of aluminum that resemble heads..make more power yes in the right hands,,w9 just an awesome head...cheaper,lighter and will make power..w8 is awesome,but requires good amount of work 
Correct....
You can score a Craftman Truck head ready to go, but it will not have the capability of say a CFE 10* deal.
We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power, but the heads that we're sending to CFE for a future build are so raw, there isn't even a spark plug hole.
The 8s have more meat than a 9 and I doubt a killer program for an 8 can be applyed to a 9......but I'm not positve about that.
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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Also, which will make more power? Kind of curious on the differences between the two engines.
i forgot to say engines are the same 48* block! hope it answer ur question.
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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Also, which will make more power? Kind of curious on the differences between the two engines.
A W-8 needs a ton of work to make them a usable head
in most cases but has more potential flow over a W-9...
a W-9 is a combination of a W-7 and W-8 but in a light
weight version... a maxed out W-9 will flow right at
365 @ .700(thats what both sets I have did)... 1 set
was CNC ported and the other was hand ported by Ryan...
W-9 is much easier to come by now days
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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ryan did my w9's. flowed 359.6 @ 700. 48* r3, 440 sb. pump gas. 9.65@137.53. street driven often.
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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I had w-9's on my short block before I put the pro stock truck w-8's on.My 9's only flowed 357@900 and the 8's flow well over 400@900 and the car only runs a tenth faster. Flow numbers don't mean as much as what people make them out to.About the only major difference is w-9's don't take a special valve cover.
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[/quote}We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power
What's that motor just out of curiousity...
417ci, 9in deck R3. The heads have been on a couple bench including MBE and without the paperwork in front of me IIRC, 297cc intake and 403cfm @.800. Really good for a truck head, I'm told.
We built it to take oxide, but are going to run it NA. It has a ported 420 and an SV-1. On Precision Automotives inertia dyno, it made 894hp @ 8200 and 657tq @ 6700. The car it's going in (70' Dart) is getting paint and should be ready for an ATCO rent day by late September.
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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[/quote}We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power
What's that motor just out of curiousity...
417ci, 9in deck R3. The heads have been on a couple bench including MBE and without the paperwork in front of me IIRC, 297cc intake and 403cfm @.800. Really good for a truck head, I'm told.
We built it to take oxide, but are going to run it NA. It has a ported 420 and an SV-1. On Precision Automotives inertia dyno, it made 894hp @ 8200 and 657tq @ 6700. The car it's going in (70' Dart) is getting paint and should be ready for an ATCO rent day by late September.
Hey man I haven't forgot about calling u.I have just been crazy busy at work and my two little girl's when home.Good luck with your car and keep us posted.Kenny
3120lb, small block, 10.5" tire, NA, through exhaust, full int, WITH 83/4 REAR, 9.0 at 150mph
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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[/quote}We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power
What's that motor just out of curiousity...
417ci, 9in deck R3. The heads have been on a couple bench including MBE and without the paperwork in front of me IIRC, 297cc intake and 403cfm @.800. Really good for a truck head, I'm told.
We built it to take oxide, but are going to run it NA. It has a ported 420 and an SV-1. On Precision Automotives inertia dyno, it made 894hp @ 8200 and 657tq @ 6700. The car it's going in (70' Dart) is getting paint and should be ready for an ATCO rent day by late September.
Hey man I haven't forgot about calling u.I have just been crazy busy at work and my two little girl's when home.Good luck with your car and keep us posted.Kenny
Thanks Kenny....
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power, but the heads that we're sending to CFE for a future build are so raw, there isn't even a spark plug hole.
Would love to see a pic of them.
Have any more?
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We have a Coleman/Arrington 15* that makes nice power, but the heads that we're sending to CFE for a future build are so raw, there isn't even a spark plug hole.
Would love to see a pic of them.
Have any more?
No pics, but when I get a chance I'll have somebody with a camera snap a few and post em' up. I'm a cameraless bum. 
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Re: W8 vs. W9 Engines: What are the major differences?
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The W8 just have alot more meat to work with.I think you could make a honest 900 hp with a really good set of W9
s in the right hands.The W8 stuff is also very hard to come by and if you do find some usually will cost you a bundle.But hands down The W8 will make some killer power.Foltz at CFE still says it is the best small block wedge head out there..
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The W8 just have alot more meat to work with.I think you could make a honest 900 hp with a really good set of W9
s in the right hands.The W8 stuff is also very hard to come by and if you do find some usually will cost you a bundle.But hands down The W8 will make some killer power.Foltz at CFE still says it is the best small block wedge head out there..
Makin' any headway with your killer???
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I had w-9's on my short block before I put the pro stock truck w-8's on.My 9's only flowed [Email]357@900[/Email] and the 8's flow well over [Email]400@900[/Email] and the car only runs a tenth faster. Flow numbers don't mean as much as what people make them out to.About the only major difference is w-9's don't take a special valve cover.
i agree 100% my indy's flowed 323@700 lift and my car is mid 9'r
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The W8 just have alot more meat to work with.I think you could make a honest 900 hp with a really good set of W9
s in the right hands.The W8 stuff is also very hard to come by and if you do find some usually will cost you a bundle.But hands down The W8 will make some killer power.Foltz at CFE still says it is the best small block wedge head out there..
Makin' any headway with your killer??? [/quo
The motor is at Uratchko's.He's done some head work and intake work,had the cam reground.changed the rockers,I cracked the Mohawk rockers,they were flexing way to much and killing my lift.so we had to go another route there.
He's just messing with it when he has the time.I had to take a break from it for awhile.The car is ready to go to Holts to 25.5 it also...
Nice.....
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