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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
[Re: 6bblgt]
#1033231
07/19/11 02:22 AM
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Las Vegas, NV
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The FE5 "bright red" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T is JS23R0B376234 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(E74, D32, A32, A45, C16, & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1336.20 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4752.20 + destination charge
HEMI auto w/4.10s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, NO radio, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes.
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 612.
Sounds like a "racecar", it was ordered new and raced by a mechanic or service writter out of a Dodge dealership in Indiana or Illinois. This is the same car that was in Texas in the '80s, Florida in the '90s & the east coast (near Dave, but he's from USA) during the '00s. It is the car that Julius restored and now resides in California.
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
[Re: 6bblgt]
#1033232
07/19/11 02:45 AM
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The FF4 "light green metallic" N94 383 Challenger R/T is JS23N0B405351 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(D32, B51, C16, C92, G11, H51, J46, J55, J81, N94, M85, R11, R31, S77, S79, U82, V1F, W21, & W34 are its extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1163.60 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4579.60 + destination charge
383 auto w/3.23 open, black interior, V6X & a few OPTIONS to the point of having a window sticker price near the HEMI cars.
I have the b'cast sheet - SPD 702 & VON 076823.
I purchased the car from Shafi Keisler in the mid-'90s thru an ad in Mopar Collectors Guide & have finally got it in a shop to begin its restoration.
Anyone have an "ordered" Challenger from the pacific northwest with a 076xxx VON?
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
[Re: 6bblgt]
#1033233
07/19/11 03:33 AM
07/19/11 03:33 AM
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The EB5 "bright blue metallic" N94 340 Challenger (non-R/T) is JH23H0B405538 - Y14 "SOLD" car - A66 car w/stripe "DELETE"
(A66, D32, D91, C16, C62, J81, N94, R22, R31, S77, V1W, & W21 are its extra cost OPTIONS)
2953.00 + 1025.10 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4128.10 + destination charge
340 auto w/3.55 s/g - white bucket seat interior
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 702. (same SPD as my car, but my car's sequence number is 15,000 cars later - I guess something "like A/C" may have delayed the car ~2 weeks?)
The car was on ebay in 2003 & located in Florida, I heard it went to Canada.
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033236
07/19/11 10:07 PM
07/19/11 10:07 PM
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Cleveland, OH
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The TX9 - "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T was JS23R0B336419 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(E74, D21, A33 & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1116.45 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4532.45 + destination charge
HEMI 4-spd w/3.54s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, manual drum brakes, NO radio, NO console, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes.
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 512 & VON 076275.
Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive. It was in the pacific northwest (note the VON).
Dan, Do you know for sure that the black Hemi spent it's entire life in the northwest? Reason I ask is that I have sheetmetal off of a black Hemi Challenger that was raced and then completely flame cut up and stashed in a guys basement to hide it from divorce proceedings. I had the doors at one time, but stupid me, I did not write down the VIN from the door sticker. The car (completley disassembled) was here in northern Ohio for a while. It was a no vinyl top and no side or butt stripe car, as we still have the mint rear quarters. At one time, we also had the rockers. The doors and rockers were aggressively lightened for racing.
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
[Re: 6bblgt]
#1033239
07/19/11 11:22 PM
07/19/11 11:22 PM
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I went to a show in Washington about 5 years ago and tried to talk with the "rumored" source of the b'cast sheet. He looked at me like I accused him of "stealing the car".
& didn't even acknowledge the car's existence.
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Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive.
 Nothing is written in STONE!
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
[Re: 6bblgt]
#1033240
07/20/11 12:45 AM
07/20/11 12:45 AM
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The TX9 - "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T was JS23R0B336419 - Y14 "SOLD" car
(E74, D21, A33 & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS)
3266.00 + 1116.45 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4532.45 + destination charge
HEMI 4-spd w/3.54s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, manual drum brakes, NO radio, NO console, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes.
I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 512 & VON 076275.
Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive. It was in the pacific northwest (note the VON).
Curious as to how all this info on the car can be a rumor. So the guy you confronted had all of this information above then, a build-sheet, but then denied it.
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033241
07/20/11 02:34 AM
07/20/11 02:34 AM
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The TX9 - "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T was JS23R0B336419 - Y14 "SOLD" car(E74, D21, A33 & N94 are its ONLY extra cost OPTIONS) 3266.00 + 1116.45 + the hood(~$150) = ~$4532.45 + destination chargeHEMI 4-spd w/3.54s - black interior, '450 wheels, manual steering, manual drum brakes, NO radio, NO console, NO vinyl top, and NO stripes. I have a copy of the b'cast sheet - SPD 512 & VON 076275. ALL ABOVE FACTS FROM THE B'CAST SHEET Sounds like a "racecar", that's the rumor - it was raced/hacked to death in the '70s & didn't survive. FOLLOWED BY THE UNPROVEN "RUMOR" Quote:
Thanks for the posting some of those pic's on each car 6bblgt, but can you tell us a little bit of each cars history including what ever happened to the black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T that was wrecked. Also how did you come across your green 70 383 Challenger R/T w/N94 code, is it on the fender-tag & build-sheet, and whats the build date on it.
Yes, N94 is on the b'cast sheet & the fender tag.
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Thanks again for all of those links 6bblgt, I will need a couple of hours to read all of them. Do you know anything about that other black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T that was wrecked, when and where, auto or 4-spd, etc, or any other details about the car?
Who said it was "wrecked"? What do you know that can be added to the discussion?
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So this black 70 Challenger R/T is definitely gone for sure then, do you have any other sources or heard of any other stories about the car, how did you here about the Challenger?
I have owned my T/A hood'd R/T for ~17 years, I've talked to many people trying to find more like it and information about them. Trying to answer questions - like: Do they have engine callout hood emblems? I think it is a "cool" OPTION & appears to be somewhat "RARE", my car's an oddball, I like that.
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Curious as to how all this info on the car can be a rumor. So the guy you confronted had all of this information above then, a build-sheet, but then denied it.
I never "confronted" anyone on this subject. I was introduced to him at a car show & I asked him if he remembered anything about an old black T/A hood'd HEMI Challenger R/T racecar he owned. He did not confirm its existence nor his prior ownership of said Challenger. Maybe I got some bad info & he never owned nor laid eyes on the Challenger in question.
What's your fascination about the "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T? Have you found it?
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033242
07/20/11 05:07 AM
07/20/11 05:07 AM
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Hemi - FE5
The red one-1973.
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033245
07/22/11 08:42 AM
07/22/11 08:42 AM
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Dallas, Texas
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This car facinates me as it's an A/C car with T/A hood. Has to be extemely rare, and probably just a handful of cars that have a forced air induction with A/C!  Like the color and options, too.  Tom
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033247
07/22/11 08:05 PM
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I know of the existence of four documented 1970 non-T/A Challengers built with the N94 fiberglass hood...
JS23R0B - black R/T 4-speed "RIP"
JS23R0B - red R/T automatic, (not the ebay car)
JH23H0B - blue automatic.
JS23N0B - green R/T automatic.
What's your fascination about the "black" N94 HEMI Challenger R/T?
Have you found it?
Because I wanted to know what ever became of this black 70 Hemi Challenger R/T w/N94 T/A hood option. You have it noted above as R.I.P, and to me that means someone wrecked it, or something else happened to it. But it seems now that even that is uncertain as to what ever happened to it, because no one can prove that it's really gone, or no one wants to talk about it for what ever reason, other than yourself. I was just inquiring to see if you knew the story of it's demise, that's all.
And I sure wouldn't mind finding that other red 70 Hemi Challenger R/T with the T/A hood that was for sale last year and talk to the owner of it, and ask him a few question's about it, so anyone here know where that one is?
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Re: 1970 Hemi Challenger R/T, project.
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#1033248
07/23/11 06:56 AM
07/23/11 06:56 AM
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Oregon
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I wonder if You could make a tribute car and amazingly "Find" the lost black one!! Oh of course, it would have to get a "warrantee" block 'wink wink" and a few other things a few sloppy number stamps, all screwed up on the assembly line ..of course!!! Basically, anytime anyone wants information, for no apparent reason, it makes everyone else wonder why? So any knowledge is better kept secret. "Thanks" to all the crooked dealers, flippers, auctioneers, and so forth, for driving all the prices up, building clones, faking numbers etc...etc.... 
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June '93
