Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Crizila] #1032182
07/14/11 04:12 PM
07/14/11 04:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 527
alaska,usa
9
9secondsatellite Offline
mopar
9secondsatellite  Offline
mopar
9

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 527
alaska,usa
who cares about the roll bars. i still want to see pictures of the mega-hot wife. jk(sort of). i hated putting bars in my car as well. went with swingouts on both sides and kept the bench seat in for comfort during street driving. if you want to play at the track, you have to play by their rules or go to another track. it's up to you at that point.

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Crizila] #1032183
07/14/11 06:45 PM
07/14/11 06:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle Offline OP
Mannix
GwaiiEagle  Offline OP
Mannix

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
Quote:

I think what the OP is really struggling with is having to make modifications that will impact the originality of his ride, not weather the rules are good or bad, or weather roll bars are good or bad. It's a difficult decision that many here have to confront at one point in time.




My journey to the drags includes a 250$, 8 hour ferry trip, and a 100 mile drive.

How far I go speedwise will be tempered by the need to make that return trip reliably.

The low deck stroker upgrade fom the echo chamber compression of the 'ol 383 left me unprepared for the tech realities of speed.

Now I know why people strap foam rolls to their roll bars.

Thinking about a rear seat from a Ramcharger; those are pretty narrow if I remember.

Thanx for your own stories about this tech change over.

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1032184
07/14/11 10:55 PM
07/14/11 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,266
Renton Washington
T
Triple Threat Offline
master
Triple Threat  Offline
master
T

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,266
Renton Washington
IMO unless you race a lot or have a desire to run much faster, I would avoid the rollbar and just run as close to that 11.50 number as possible.


-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Triple Threat] #1032185
07/14/11 11:21 PM
07/14/11 11:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
I know that the 11.50 ET is the cut off for the roll bar , but when you look at most accidents at the track , most cars are going less that the 115 MPH that you will be going with that 11.50 ET. But depending on the accident type whether that roll bar will save your butt or not. Bounce of the rail, not needed, roll it over off the rail, you will wish you had a cage. I seen a guy lose it at the 1/8 mile at a little over 100MPH and roll his car, This was a race car, not street, there was nothing recognizable on the car. Lucky he had a cage. I know i'm not racing mine again until It gets caged.


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: rowin4] #1032186
07/15/11 01:23 PM
07/15/11 01:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
I used to race a 340 Dart back in the early 80's. It was this 66 Dart. It ran a best of 11.90's and when a balljoint let go this is what happened. The rollbar bent but did its job and saved me. Rule was 11.99 had to have a bar back then. Anything can happen as I never thought my car would roll. Its worth at least a 6 point bar if its faster then 11.50 and you plan to race it a good bit. Ron





Last edited by 383man; 07/15/11 01:23 PM.
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: 383man] #1032187
07/15/11 02:07 PM
07/15/11 02:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle Offline OP
Mannix
GwaiiEagle  Offline OP
Mannix

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1032188
07/15/11 02:21 PM
07/15/11 02:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,763
Walton's Mountain, Pa
Steve1118 Offline
master
Steve1118  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,763
Walton's Mountain, Pa
It really doesn't matter how you "feel" about it. Those are the rules....


"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!"

East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine

www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Steve1118] #1032189
07/17/11 02:34 AM
07/17/11 02:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,153
Adrian, Mi
P
pro6pakRR Offline
mopar addict
pro6pakRR  Offline
mopar addict
P

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,153
Adrian, Mi
After working at a track for 10 years and seeing a few cars crash I would say PUT A BAR IN IT.If you plan on going any quicker.Like I used to tell the young kids "it hurts if your going 50 or 150"

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Steve1118] #1032190
07/17/11 07:25 PM
07/17/11 07:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle Offline OP
Mannix
GwaiiEagle  Offline OP
Mannix

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
Quote:

It really doesn't matter how you "feel" about it. Those are the rules....




Should have searched harder on this site for a previous thread about the subject.

'Living with a roll bar on the street' is a way better question with good answers, too.

493man's Photo and Story in this thread was the clincher.

Even if I stay at the same speed it'd be a good idea to run the bar.

The Mega Hot wife said it best, "I'd rather have you than a stock looking car."


Last edited by GwaiiEagle; 07/18/11 08:15 PM.
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1032191
07/17/11 07:31 PM
07/17/11 07:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
dannysbee Offline
master
dannysbee  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
The wife sound intelligent also. Too bad you are ashamed of her and won't show a picture.


Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: dannysbee] #1032192
07/17/11 07:45 PM
07/17/11 07:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle Offline OP
Mannix
GwaiiEagle  Offline OP
Mannix

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
Quote:

The wife sound intelligent also. Too bad you are ashamed of her and won't show a picture.




I mentioned the thread, and what I had said about her and she was a little pissed. Not because she isn't, because she is a private person.

Sorry man,


Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1032193
07/17/11 07:53 PM
07/17/11 07:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
dannysbee Offline
master
dannysbee  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,160
Texas
I understand completely, just yanking your chain a bit. Smart, modest and hot, sounds like you better keep your ducks in a row.


Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: Crizila] #1032194
07/18/11 12:26 AM
07/18/11 12:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,153
Adrian, Mi
P
pro6pakRR Offline
mopar addict
pro6pakRR  Offline
mopar addict
P

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,153
Adrian, Mi
This is why you need a bar,she walked away from this https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/phot...e=1&theater

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: LAR_414] #1032195
07/18/11 12:35 AM
07/18/11 12:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,501
Gainesville,FL
G
goldmember Offline
master
goldmember  Offline
master
G

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,501
Gainesville,FL
Without a helmet,harness etc you'd be safer without a roll bar in a street car. The steel tubing would be a baseball bat on steroids in an accident.

Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: GwaiiEagle] #1032196
07/18/11 01:02 AM
07/18/11 01:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 903
Saskatchewan, Canada
cudabin Offline
super stock
cudabin  Offline
super stock

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 903
Saskatchewan, Canada
It is up to you, but I would not do it...

11.50 is fast enough for a Street car, and fast enough to win in pro class against 9 second cars if you leave well and are consistent.

The problem is this: We started out going 12.00's in a 67 cuda with a mild 340 and when it dipped into the 11.90's, (years ago) we were told it had to have a bar. So in goes the bar and the extra weight slows it down to 12.10's where no bar is needed...

Then we get the brainwave to add a ntirous kit and soon the car is a low 11.00 ride. If more is better, then too much is just right so up the jets and it is a 10.80 car until the timing retard on the digital 6 fails and melts a couple pistons, spins bearings...

OK, on to a 471 stroker 400 motor with 906 heads running 10,50's and this is not enough so let's put on some 440-1 Indy Alum heads to get closer to 10.00's. The indy heads work great, but now it is running 9.80's and we are in trouble unless we turn the bar into a cage and get an NHRA competition liscense.

All good, lets upgrade the heads to CNC ported version where a 9.50 is the result until we grenade the stock block...

Now a Kieth Black Alum block 557 bullet with 955HP (corrected) and the car goes 8.89 at 151 but the chassis can barely handle the power.

Time to back half it???

Seriously, if it is a street car keep it at 11.50 and enjoy it.

If you want to go faster, look on Racing junk and buy someones complete tube chassis A-Body and go fast.

My

Good luck,

Arnie


67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...) 70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
Re: Roll Bars. How did you feel about it? [Re: cudabin] #1032197
07/18/11 01:23 PM
07/18/11 01:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
GwaiiEagle Offline OP
Mannix
GwaiiEagle  Offline OP
Mannix

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 964
Nanaimo, B.C.
Quote:


OK, on to a 471 stroker 400 motor with 906 heads running 10,50's and this is not enough




That to me was the scary part.

I've decided because I drive so far to the track a roll bar is cheap insurance.

The biggest hazard where I live are the deer, and the Duster is getting so rusty I'd likely steer for them and Rockford my rear quarter in to one.

Page 2 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1