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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: DPelletier] #1018201
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cheap high mile 2wd diesel for the tow.... cheap rusty pos commuter car for work/winter duty.

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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: J_BODY] #1018202
06/22/11 10:21 PM
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Eric, my 04 QC 4 wh drive Hemi gets me 9-10 MPG pulling my 28ft trailer with my 3400lb car and thats taking it easy. For every day use without a trailer I get 12/13 city and 16/17 hwy

I think the Hemi has no problem pulling the trailer but I should be doing it with at least a 2500 truck. I have pulled to BG KY and to St. Louis from North East Ohio and no issues at all.


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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: Eric] #1018203
06/22/11 11:32 PM
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Guys....I've been looking at diesel's....but a 10-14k max budget does not buy much...and I want 03' and up. I drove a 7.3 Ford F250 that I could'nt see driving as my only vehicle and haven't tried a Cummin's yet but they are more pricey. I'm patient and there are deals out there if you look.

Getting back to the Hemi... ....any info would be appreciated on results towing and everyday mpg...thanks again..




I've towed a fair amount with Hemi Durango's (3 of them). I usually get 12-13 MPG towing. The same with 5-6000 lb at 75 MPH and 8000 Lb at 60-65 MPH. Slower speeds with the heavier load due to straight tag hitch and surge brakes... not power. The newest 2011 Durango seems to get 1-2 MPG better but maxes out at 7500 lb. I'm sure a 2500 with its heavier powertrain and probably worse aerodynamics wouldn't do as well but could tow more. I would have no problem with a hemi engine in a 3/4 ton towing 10,000 lb from time to time. If I had to do it every day and long distance, yes the diesel would be better. For occasional use the gas may be better & more cost effective.

Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: TheBlueBeast] #1018204
06/23/11 03:11 AM
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Get an older cummins. My buddy marty (440nuts if still registered) has an 04 with the 5.9 5 speed full 4 door cab K&N filter charger, quadzilla power adder, synthetic oils everywhere and he knocks down 26 in the summer and 32 in the winter. The motor likes cold air a lot. Flat land at 55mph I have seen it make 36mpg with 40 degree air. Pulling a goose neck trailer rated at 16K loaded with TBB he knocked dowwn 17mpg in the summertime (95+F) he can pull my bumper pull trailer (about 1600lbs) and not change his milage. We went to get the 1980 dodge stepside truck from member showtime in North Carolina something like 800 miles adn I bought three tanks of fuel (one there, one back and one to replenish for his time). I would stay away from the newer ones with 6.7s because a friend that works (parts manager) at the nearest dealership told me they soot up turbos for excessive idling (cure is brake fluid into the intake stream cost 300 after first time) and the motors do not get the milage the 5.9s do.




If he is making that high of mileage on a cummins, hey, I should trade my daily driver for one. But then again, it is never that cold over here.

Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: Eric] #1018205
06/23/11 12:28 PM
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Guys....I've been looking at diesel's....but a 10-14k max budget does not buy much...and I want 03' and up. I drove a 7.3 Ford F250 that I could'nt see driving as my only vehicle and haven't tried a Cummin's yet but they are more pricey. I'm patient and there are deals out there if you look.

Getting back to the Hemi... ....any info would be appreciated on results towing and everyday mpg...thanks again..




I'm right with you. I have a 91 CTD that is starting to require more constant work to keep reliable, and it is not fun to drive daily. I have a 99 intrepid that I commute with (and a bike), but both will probably completely wear out in the next 2-3yrs and I probably won't be in a position to replace both, will need to either live without a truck and borrow from my dad when I need to tow or live with a truck as my only driver. My budget would most likely mean older diesel or hemi.
From the diesels I've driven, I can't really see daily driving anything older than 04, just too much bouncing around. But dropping from 22-25mpg in the intrepid and 20mpg in the CTD in mixed commuting to 12-14 with a hemi sure would suck, and cost about $1500/yr in gas vs my intrepid.
Make it even more complicated with the 2010+ Rams being really cool looking trucks and having a suspension that is much more friendly.

Tough decisions!


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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: furious70] #1018206
06/23/11 01:33 PM
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I had a 2007 Hemi QCab and I averaged about 15 mpg empty. I would get around 8 mpg towing. I bought a '04 CTD Qcab 2wd and it is my only running vehicle and my daily driver. 6 spd manual with no mods. I average realistically 21-22 mpg empty and have not towed with it. No issues using it as a daily driver at all. I paid $18K last year from a dealer. It had 68K on the clock. I bet with some shopping you could find a 5.9 CTD 24V pretty close to your budget with under 100K on it.

Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: furious70] #1018207
06/23/11 01:48 PM
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I have a '04 1/2 2500 CTD, 4x4, 4door, lareme, long bed with 34k miles and i never drive it cause the mileage sucks. I check mileage by topping the tank to the rim for accuracy in calculation. The best i ever got is 13.5 mpg, down to 10mpg towing a flat front enclosed 8'x 20' at about 6700lbs loaded with car. My daily driver is a '06 Honda civic(yes i admit it and love it) 30mpg city, close to 40mpg highway!!......I need to talk to a guy about such bad mileage with the CTD. I was expecting minimum 18mpg unloaded and better on the highway. I know someone with a '06 3500 dually CTD and gets 18mpg all day long................My '98 1500 Dodge 2wd, 318/auto, short box, with 50k miles on it got 9.5mpg towing the same exact trailer! So what the heck did i gain with the '04.5 CTD???????????????


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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: ahy] #1018208
06/23/11 03:01 PM
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I've towed a fair amount with Hemi Durango's (3 of them). I usually get 12-13 MPG towing.




Wow, that's MUCH better than our '06 MDS Hemi Durango which averages 12.7mpg combined city/hwy....no towing. I have towed a 6500 lb trailer with our Durango (It's rated at 9000; has the tow package, 3.73's, tranny cooler, etc) but I was too scared to check mileage! If I had to bet, I'd say it was around 6mpg but it's quite hilly here. Power isn't a problem, brakes are iffy.


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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: DPelletier] #1018209
06/23/11 04:47 PM
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My next truck will be a cummins. My friend is into them and I drove his 05 and '10, both 6 speeds and I loved them! I did recently tow an open trailer and then haul back about 5000lbs total with a 95 2wd 318 ram and it suprising average 11.8mpg a mile on a 600 plus mile trip. It was 90% highway and was a little underpowered up some hills, but I couldn't complain. A modified cummins not only hauls good, but they are a lot more fun to drive.


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Re: Towing and MPG with a Ram 2500 Hemi? [Re: big-block-dave] #1018210
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I have a '04 1/2 2500 CTD, 4x4, 4door, lareme, long bed with 34k miles and i never drive it cause the mileage sucks. I check mileage by topping the tank to the rim for accuracy in calculation. The best i ever got is 13.5 mpg, down to 10mpg towing a flat front enclosed 8'x 20' at about 6700lbs loaded with car. My daily driver is a '06 Honda civic(yes i admit it and love it) 30mpg city, close to 40mpg highway!!......I need to talk to a guy about such bad mileage with the CTD. I was expecting minimum 18mpg unloaded and better on the highway. I know someone with a '06 3500 dually CTD and gets 18mpg all day long................My '98 1500 Dodge 2wd, 318/auto, short box, with 50k miles on it got 9.5mpg towing the same exact trailer! So what the heck did i gain with the '04.5 CTD???????????????




I have the same truck as you with the 4.10 diffs and average 18MPG (my only daily driver). I bought the truck new with 17 miles on the odometer and I can tell you this, these trucks get better fuel economy with more mileage on them. The Ram now has 122,000 on the clock and I can pull 635 miles out of the 35 gallon tank. Not too shabby for 7,100 lbs

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I have a '04 1/2 2500 CTD, 4x4, 4door, lareme, long bed with 34k miles and i never drive it cause the mileage sucks. I check mileage by topping the tank to the rim for accuracy in calculation. The best i ever got is 13.5 mpg, down to 10mpg towing a flat front enclosed 8'x 20' at about 6700lbs loaded with car. My daily driver is a '06 Honda civic(yes i admit it and love it) 30mpg city, close to 40mpg highway!!......I need to talk to a guy about such bad mileage with the CTD. I was expecting minimum 18mpg unloaded and better on the highway. I know someone with a '06 3500 dually CTD and gets 18mpg all day long................My '98 1500 Dodge 2wd, 318/auto, short box, with 50k miles on it got 9.5mpg towing the same exact trailer! So what the heck did i gain with the '04.5 CTD???????????????




I have the same truck as you with the 4.10 diffs and average 18MPG (my only daily driver). I bought the truck new with 17 miles on the odometer and I can tell you this, these trucks get better fuel economy with more mileage on them. The Ram now has 122,000 on the clock and I can pull 635 miles out of the 35 gallon tank. Not too shabby for 7,100 lbs




Also depends on how they're used. My truck was purchased new where I work and had a 12,500 fifth wheel behind it from day one. I bought it with 26K miles on it when the owner traded it in on a quieter 03. Only has 126k on it now and you can run the oil 7k miles and it's still clean. It's only been used to tow, and long road trips since I've owned it. Unfortunately it just sits since I quit racing. It's paid for so I hate to part with it.

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