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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: gomangoRTSE] #1017201
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But otherwise based on dollar for dollar money the 440 will produce more power. And I think this is especially true if your working on a working mans budget.






100%. This is TRUE!! It's the LOWER cost which gives the 440 a power advantage, NOT the fact that 383's aren't capable.



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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1017202
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I'd like to hear some good running 440 #s .

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: RemCharger] #1017203
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I'd like to hear some good running 440 #s .




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPjBNwdHfA start up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70nfYdOF-q0&feature=related easy pass.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1017204
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I'd like to hear some good running 440 #s .




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPPjBNwdHfA start up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70nfYdOF-q0&feature=related easy pass.




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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1017205
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Kinda hard to believe this is still a topic of conversation...

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: Fat_Mike] #1017206
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Well, there are a few who like to on this topic, I guess. Can't do too much about that.


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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1017207
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Well, there are a few who like to on this topic, I guess. Can't do too much about that.






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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HotRodDave] #1017208
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This post is about what will do reall good burnouts on the street. I think we all agreed.
And Mr yuck your Charger is an extremely strong machine.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1017209
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once you drive a 440 you're not going back to a 383.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: RemCharger] #1017210
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This post is about what will do reall good burnouts on the street. I think we all agreed.
And Mr yuck your Charger is an extremely strong machine.




thanks... hope to get the new trans in after vacation and see what it will run on an all-put hard pass.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1017211
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Nothing like BB low end grunt rumpity rump. From the basement. 440. Otherwise you're just "explaining.




Let's look at this from the TOP(end that is). Nothing like the HI-RPM scream (6000rpm or MORE) going thru the gears. Rev to the stratosphere. That's the 383, baby! Otherwise, YOU'RE just all "TORQUE" (talk)!! And YOUR basement door slams shut AT 5-6000rpm.






A 440 will be two car lengths ahead of the 383 before it even gets to 5000 RPM!

And LOTS of 440's are pulling strong well past 6000




Are on the PIPE!! 60-120 ft past the tree 383's have been known to hit 6000 (or better) rpm (gear depending) and "step out" on 440's in 2nd and 3rd gears. At the 660-1000 ft mark, a "good" lightweight 383 car WILL outleg a 440 car to the finish, driver depending. Your "2-car advantage" has been either eliminated or "switched around" to the 383 car at the finish!! 383's been campaigned in Super/Stock regularly back in the early 60 - mid 70's and turned rpms in excess of 7500 rpm, reliably! They also ran and still run brackets and Stock Eliminator classes. The "rage" of the newer engine technology, has allowed the onslaught of STROKER
motor combos to be MUCH stronger but at LOWER streetable rpms. Excellent technology and science by far, as well as being cheaper to build than a stout 383. As I said "440 is CHEAPER power, but not the CURE-ALL"!! Never any HATE, just a strong DEBATE!!







There is no replacement for cubic inch displacement.
I was turning my 440 with self ported 906 heads above 7000 rpms back in the early 80's.
I would never consider a 383 over a 440. I have moved up to a hemi and would never go back to either.
But between the two the 440 is far superior.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: DodgeCharger] #1017212
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Some people wont give it up. Whats next, guys "swearing" they have a low compression 318 that will out torque, outrun, and manhandle all 440s out there. LOL.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: gomangoRTSE] #1017213
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I'm sure there will be some out there.
There's one at our track, its a tough little motor....

440s are just plain fun to beat. I kind of enjoyed roasting my buddies 69 440 cuda this weekend. Not by alot, mind you, but the #'s don't lie.

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: CUDA8U] #1017214
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seems to me these posts just end up being a big pissing match (my dad can beat up your dad kind of thing). Seems to me the people could just give the facts of their personal combination-and let the original poster decide what best suits his needs/budget


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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #1017215
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simple,no substitute for cubic inch .

Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: HotRodDave] #1017216
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Well, there are a few who like to on this topic, I guess. Can't do too much about that.






If that ain't the pot calling the Kettle black I don't know what is!




I guess you've been the pot..err.um..stirring the pot for so long now, you're expecting some sort of compensation or wage..hmm. Here's YOUR for starters!!



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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: DodgeCharger] #1017217
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Nothing like BB low end grunt rumpity rump. From the basement. 440. Otherwise you're just "explaining.




Let's look at this from the TOP(end that is). Nothing like the HI-RPM scream (6000rpm or MORE) going thru the gears. Rev to the stratosphere. That's the 383, baby! Otherwise, YOU'RE just all "TORQUE" (talk)!! And YOUR basement door slams shut AT 5-6000rpm.






A 440 will be two car lengths ahead of the 383 before it even gets to 5000 RPM!

And LOTS of 440's are pulling strong well past 6000




Are on the PIPE!! 60-120 ft past the tree 383's have been known to hit 6000 (or better) rpm (gear depending) and "step out" on 440's in 2nd and 3rd gears. At the 660-1000 ft mark, a "good" lightweight 383 car WILL outleg a 440 car to the finish, driver depending. Your "2-car advantage" has been either eliminated or "switched around" to the 383 car at the finish!! 383's been campaigned in Super/Stock regularly back in the early 60 - mid 70's and turned rpms in excess of 7500 rpm, reliably! They also ran and still run brackets and Stock Eliminator classes. The "rage" of the newer engine technology, has allowed the onslaught of STROKER
motor combos to be MUCH stronger but at LOWER streetable rpms. Excellent technology and science by far, as well as being cheaper to build than a stout 383. As I said "440 is CHEAPER power, but not the CURE-ALL"!! Never any HATE, just a strong DEBATE!!







There is no replacement for cubic inch displacement.
I was turning my 440 with self ported 906 heads above 7000 rpms back in the early 80's.
I would never consider a 383 over a 440. I have moved up to a hemi and would never go back to either.
But between the two the 440 is far superior.




Good for you, and I respect your opinion.
I love the underdog motors, that's MY opinion!



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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #1017218
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seems to me these posts just end up being a big pissing match (my dad can beat up your dad kind of thing). Seems to me the people could just give the facts of their personal combination-and let the original poster decide what best suits his needs/budget




Good advice!!



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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: nutso suave] #1017219
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once you drive a 440 you're not going back to a 383.




Drove a couple, liked them a LOT but still LOVE the 383
more!!



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Re: 383 VS 440 [Re: CUDA8U] #1017220
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Lets go back to the OP's question:

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WHICH IS BETTER TO BUILD FOR A STREETABLE APPLICATION ON PUMP GAS BUT CAN STILL TEAR UP THE STREETS?




Clearly both "can tear up the streets." But he's not building a vehicle around a motor (which is irrelavent anyway), so forget about body weight and all the other speculative responses. Yeah, sure there are plenty of well built 383's that can beat up on lesser built 440's. But as said above, with COMPARABLY BUILT MOTORS, a 440 will always out perform its little brother...the 383. No?

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