ok so I also thought how bad can it be? but then looked and yikes hese a nut case in all respects. takes off weight with good intention but then adds on double the pounds of patch and hardware. got to give him a ten for follow thruogh. poor dogs eyes. at least hes giving the kid a hump in the leg for it.... I also think he someday wants to be a welders helper on a chrysler K frame line. LOL