well i tried pounding on a socket, 12 pt and 6 pt.,that didn't work.i went to sears and bought the wheel lock nut remover socket set.still no luck it appears the nut is hardend. and the fluted end won't grip the nut.i really don't want to weld a nut on on this since it has alumnium wheels.any other ideas?i may try the tire shop idea on my day off.if there any other ideas please post them. thanks for all the repies.