I was in HF again today looking and this youngish dude comes up and asked if was getting one (not a salesman). I say yea just can’t make up my mind. He says he has three, for different trailers, 9000 and two 5000s, all work great 6 years now. Main thing is the 1year warranty-$120, 2 years is double that. He said he got another 5000 just because it looked crummy, lol, they replaced with no questions. He said get remote ($39) then he sits in the car and winches it in. The new 12000 with nylon rope is $559 plus warranty cost. The older model 12000 3/8 cable is $359 plus warranty but has a 12’ switch cable and have to buy remote separately. Then the 80’ 3/8” nylon rope is $124 if I want that part. Time I add all that stuff I’m only $70 off the new one. I think I would rather have a 5/16” steel cable instead. I’ll go back bu TS to look again at their 110 volt ac one since I carry a small generator in the trailer anyway and an extension cord close to shop. Decisions decisions