I was at Callies back in July. They gave me the nickel tour and I was noticing huge piles of cams and cam cores in addition to all the crankshafts. I was completely unaware they made cams and cam cores. My tour guide informed me that they had bought some of the cam equipment from Crane. I asked them what made them to decide to get in the cam business. The answer was "nobody else was doing it". He said they were doing well with it, suppling cores to all the big hitters. Crane had for years. So at least that has not gone away. Todd