Originally Posted By MRGTX
I've talked about my suspension mods a lot but so far, I'm not really happy with how it drives yet. I realize that I have more parts to buy, more tuning and more work ahead but this is where my car is right now and I would love some advice on where to go next.

'73 Dart Sport, original 318 car (Magnum 5.9 swap)
8 3/4" rear with 4.10 Eaton TrueTrac
Built A904 (until I can afford the T56 conversion)
Non-power brakes
Stock front disks Ford Explorer rear disks
Manual 16:1 steering with Tuff Wheel replica
Aluminum wheels 15x8 +0mm rear and 15x7 +10mm front
255/60/15 rear Radial T/As (ugh)
225/60/15 front Radial T/As (ugh).
Stock front sway bar, no rear sway bar
QA1 Upper and Lower control arms
Sway-A-Way 1.14" torsion bars
Hotchkis lowering leaf springs
Fox 1.5 shocks (Hotchkis)
Mancini Camber spacers

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE driving it...but in general it feels like it needs a lot of work before it drives anything like I had hoped.

A few specific points of concern:

1)Brand new (re-man) steering box but there's still a ton of play (20*-30*?) in the steering and it really spoils the driving experience.


Most reman boxes are not remanufactured so much as simply dis-assembled, inspected, excessively worn parts replaced, new gaskets installed, and put back together. Short of a new boxes, all reman boxes will be like this. Adjust freeplay as suggested earlier and see if that tightens things up a bit. The Borgeson unit may be the best example of a recirculating ball box out there. They are newer, have tighter tolerances, and an improved feel.

Originally Posted By MRGTX

2) Alignment...I'm still trying to figure out what else I need to replace to fix the awful steering action and I'm trying to decide on a ride height so I'm hesitant to pay for a professional alignment just yet but I've made a lot of adjustments to camber and toe just playing around with it and it tracks nice and straight though I'm sure it's far from optimized for handling.


Are you using a gauge at all or just a string/tape measure? Garage alignments are only as good as the effort you put into them and you can do the basic as well as thrust measurements, but will lack some precision. You are right that you need height decided before you dial in alignment. You didn't mention it but I'd suggest setting max caster first (rear eccentric bolt all the way in/front all the way out), then adjust for camber, finally toe. You can map out the position of everything on your garage floor with a plumb bob and measure it to see how everything lays out squarely, but it takes some effort. While never being an an accident is good news, the factory specs from this era were pretty loose and its possible for any position to be up to an eighth out of ideal. Stack them all up and things can be off quite a bit. Same with a rear thrust measurement. Possible, but takes an effort to be as accurate as possible.

Originally Posted By MRGTX

3)Something's not right in the rear end. The springs seem way too stiff. I know the Hotchkis springs are much heavier than stock but it feels really rigid when I push down on the bumper and a couple of times it has really gotten jittery over bumps in a way that spooked me.


Pushing down on the back won't tell you much. You've got maybe a couple hundred pounds of force. The car will be exerting a couple thousand pounds of force. If it feels jittery over bumps, try softening the shock setting. You could also put it up in the air and move it through its motion to make sure it isn't binding since that was mentioned below.

Originally Posted By MRGTX

4)Something else weird with the rear- the car is straight, never hit, everything looks to be lined up correctly yet the driver's side sits slightly higher in the rear than the passenger side. Could this be related to the shackles binding? I just don't know what else could cause this...


T-bar adjustment height will impact rear height. If you are adjusting both front bars to be exact, it can throw off height in the rear. Adjust the passenger front up slightly to correct.

Originally Posted By MRGTX

5) Something's just weird with the feel on turn-in. It's really hard for me to explain it but it's like the chassis settles in the wrong direction when loading up on a curve.


Could be weight jacking (or lack of) from the caster setting. Is this a low, medium, highspeed, left, right, both directions, does it take more or less effort one way or the other. Lots of things to dig into with this.

Originally Posted By MRGTX

I'm far from giving up...I just know that a properly set-up Mopar can be a great handling and satisfying car to drive...I'm mostly flailing around in the dark though AutoXCuda and 72BlunBlu (over on the Abodies forum) have helped a ton already through their threads as well as direct answers.

Any thoughts, advice, appropriately phrased insults, etc. are welcome. smile

I don’t have much footage of the car in action but when watching this quick clip, Something looks odd...Is there something weird about how the front end moves here? I know...not much to go on but it almost looks like there's no suspension travel at all?

https://youtu.be/76aQKC2U7zc


Can't see your hand in relation to the car's direction. It looks like a semi-abrupt turn. Maybe turning the wheel some before the tires catch up. Might have someone turn the steering wheel while you watch the steering box and linkage. As suggested by others, box mounting flex in the K frame as well as tolerance stack up from other components could all be factors in the turn in feel.

Overall combo seems like a good starting point. May be light on front sway bar. If you can find a large, empty parking lot, you can try some skid pad exercises to find out your suspension balance. walk out a 100' diameter circle, drive the circle 5 times left, 5 times right at increasing speed until you feel the front or rear of the car slide and you balance will become obvious. The car feels the combined difference between front and rear rates in both the springs and sway bars. Because of the front engine layout, you want more rate up front to handle the weight. The skid pad circle exercise will tell you which end needs more or less rate.

Yes, steering couplers wear. There are a couple of shoes inside them as well as the housing its self. There are rebuild kits out there for them. Also, if you have an adapter, that is another joint added to the system which can contribute to tolerance stack up.

Yea, TAs are not the best choice. If you want to stick with 15s try the MT SR. Its one of the newest 15" carcass designs out there, easily available, reasonably priced, with a relatively soft compound. Might also try stepping up front sizes as the narrower front tire will tend to understeer.